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Post by Pirates GM on Feb 20, 2019 11:22:59 GMT -5
Colby is such a little fucker. Every time I anxiously await the Reds to officially blow it up, he pulls some move out of nowhere to remain bothersome in the NL Central.
Hey ColbyJack? Enjoy my sloppy seconds power hitters...again!
You fucking guy you.
JIm
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Post by rockiesgm on Feb 20, 2019 11:40:55 GMT -5
Nope. 24 hours without a bid and the high bid wins. If after 7 days the bidding is still going on, it comes down to just people who've bid in the last 24 hours of it. To prevent any snipers. Gotcha.
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Post by Cubbies on Feb 20, 2019 12:18:46 GMT -5
Hayes walking into the Mike Trout thread like...
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Post by Cubbies on Feb 20, 2019 12:19:31 GMT -5
Anyone else interested in what kind of ads JImmy has on Facebook now after searching all that?
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Post by seattlegm on Feb 20, 2019 13:03:06 GMT -5
Goldschmidt is done. That's an unbelievable contract. Well done Colby. Doesn't it now go to a private bidding war between Patrick and Colby? This is how I read it. Maybe we need to rephrase this.
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Post by Nationals on Feb 20, 2019 13:11:28 GMT -5
Trout with 2 teams same bid.
Bescause im a taddle tale and want them to spend more money.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Feb 20, 2019 14:52:00 GMT -5
Anyone else got the feeling that these numbers aren’t sustainable long term? Seems like payroll growth IRL is slowing down while our contracts are going up. I don’t have all the data, but I’m just typing this thought out. Our record contracts just so greatly exceed the annual values being handed out the last 2 offseasons. Not to be a conspiracy guy (cuz I hate that stuff), but are we certain that our rollover system isn’t breaking our offseasons? Just scratching my head over here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 14:55:42 GMT -5
Off the top of my head I would point to an arbitration system and CE system that don’t reach the point of RL that is subsidizing the FA process.
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Post by raysgm on Feb 20, 2019 15:04:03 GMT -5
Anyone else got the feeling that these numbers aren’t sustainable long term? Seems like payroll growth IRL is slowing down while our contracts are going up. I don’t have all the data, but I’m just typing this thought out. Our record contracts just so greatly exceed the annual values being handed out the last 2 offseasons. Not to be a conspiracy guy (cuz I hate that stuff), but are we certain that our rollover system isn’t breaking our offseasons? Just scratching my head over here. Things I don't think are great (in order of importance): 1. Our current rollover system (Rolling over money can cause a huge 1 year blip without affecting your base cap) --enormous tier break-- 2. Our arbitration system --tier break-- 3. Our current roster limit 4. Our current FA bidding calculator --tier break-- 5. Our new tier 1 FA system (24 hours seems like a long time...but I don't have a better solution) --tier break-- 6. Our CE system (it sucks, but it's also not very important; LET'S FIX THE FA BIDDING CALCULATOR AND DO RFAS DAMNIT)
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Post by KC Royals Nate on Feb 20, 2019 15:05:25 GMT -5
Off the top of my head I would point to an arbitration system and CE system that don’t reach the point of RL that is subsidizing the FA process. This is my thought too. No one is getting more than $13M in year 6 if he maxes out in our Arb system, Arenado just got double that in MLB
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Post by raysgm on Feb 20, 2019 15:07:48 GMT -5
Also, I'm not sure where I stand on this Goldschmidt deal. On one hand, the way I interpreted the process (and according to Joe, what the process intended to be), Cincinnati's bid should have signed the player. On the other, the fact that both Brian and Patrick mis-interpreted the rule, and Patrick believed he was still in on the player would also suggest to me that Patrick should have the option to top the bid if he so chooses. A player would never sign with another team while there is clearly another team that they have been in talks with openly willing to top it.
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Post by Cubbies on Feb 20, 2019 15:50:00 GMT -5
I don't understand where confusion came in. Seemed to be straightforward to me.
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Post by raysgm on Feb 20, 2019 16:08:09 GMT -5
I don't understand where confusion came in. Seemed to be straightforward to me. And I would agree it is. But the fact that two of our longer standing GMs interpreted it otherwise leads me to believe that it may not have been as straightforward as you and I thought. On one hand, I want to be fair to Colby since he technically is the winner. On the other, I want to be fair to Patrick, since he thought he was still in the hunt. I keep flipping back and forth in my head which is the "more fair" resolution.
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Post by Pirates GM on Feb 20, 2019 16:28:17 GMT -5
PS Not sure if this helps or hurts, but I assumed it was the way Brian and Patrick thought it was too.
JIm
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Post by seattlegm on Feb 20, 2019 18:13:17 GMT -5
Also, I'm not sure where I stand on this Goldschmidt deal. On one hand, the way I interpreted the process (and according to Joe, what the process intended to be), Cincinnati's bid should have signed the player. On the other, the fact that both Brian and Patrick mis-interpreted the rule, and Patrick believed he was still in on the player would also suggest to me that Patrick should have the option to top the bid if he so chooses. A player would never sign with another team while there is clearly another team that they have been in talks with openly willing to top it. I’m good with Goldschmidt going elsewhere, I just think it needs to be rephrased to be more clear. It’s on me for not clarifying and not making another bid within the window. I just think if 3 GMs interpreted the rule other than the way it was intended it needs reworded.
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Post by Pirates GM on Feb 20, 2019 22:43:34 GMT -5
$50MM is the new $30MM.
Clayton Kershaw, you sexy son of a bitch you.
JIm
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Post by Cubbies on Feb 20, 2019 22:58:32 GMT -5
I just think if 3 GMs interpreted the rule other than the way it was intended it needs reworded. If we just look at which three it was who misinterpreted it, it may explain things more.
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Post by LA Angels GM on Feb 20, 2019 23:29:26 GMT -5
$50MM is the new $30MM. Clayton Kershaw, you sexy son of a bitch you. JIm I wonder if it would've gotten this high without the public open bidding?
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Post by Whitesox on Feb 21, 2019 0:02:31 GMT -5
$50MM is the new $30MM. Clayton Kershaw, you sexy son of a bitch you. JIm I wonder if it would've gotten this high without the public open bidding? I was also wondering that. I doubt that it wouldve, but who you never know how the bidding war will escalate.
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Post by Cubbies on Feb 21, 2019 0:19:28 GMT -5
Wooooohooooooo!!!
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Post by raysgm on Feb 21, 2019 0:34:32 GMT -5
It only takes one insane asian boy with a dream to make free agency very weird.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Feb 21, 2019 4:46:40 GMT -5
It only takes one insane asian boy with a dream to make free agency very weird. I knew my white privilege would work against me someday.
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Post by Pirates GM on Feb 21, 2019 8:38:48 GMT -5
I just think if 3 GMs interpreted the rule other than the way it was intended it needs reworded. If we just look at which three it was who misinterpreted it, it may explain things more. Joe translator: “It was supposed to be in THE BYLAWS, but we forgot to put it in there. So you were just supposed to know or something.” Xoxo, JIm
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Post by Elephanti! on Feb 21, 2019 9:57:56 GMT -5
Jim translator: "Where is my insane asian boy"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 10:24:57 GMT -5
So so far we have Goldschmidt to the Reds and Stanton to the Cubs?
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Post by Pirates GM on Feb 21, 2019 10:29:53 GMT -5
By the way, I think this whole Goldschmidt thing is a TOTAL case of the Mandela Effect, which totally fascinates me.
If you don't know about the Mandela Effect, look it up. #insaaaaaaaaaane
JIm
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Post by rockiesgm on Feb 21, 2019 12:15:43 GMT -5
I just think if 3 GMs interpreted the rule other than the way it was intended it needs reworded. If we just look at which three it was who misinterpreted it, it may explain things more. #Truth
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Post by Cubbies on Feb 21, 2019 12:16:56 GMT -5
Of the most common examples of The Mandela Effect, the only one that I fall into is the Bearenstein Bears one.
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Post by Cubbies on Feb 21, 2019 12:18:51 GMT -5
Pretty excited to get Stanton for under 40 million. He and Gallo are going to put the fear of Zeus into the pitchers of the NL Central.
Now I just need pitching.
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Post by bigredmachine on Feb 21, 2019 13:56:51 GMT -5
Congrats to Ed for landing a pretty big fish!
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