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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jan 2, 2017 10:26:24 GMT -5
Let's see, so Connor gave up Gerrit Cole, Mike Fiers, AJ Puk, and Grant Holmes, plus 7.5 million for 3 years of Harper. And if you count the way that Brian acquired Ramirez, then he just gave up David Price (Ramirez), Cole Hamels, Jake Thompson, a 1st round pick, and 20 million for 7 years of Benitendi. And to think, Connor thought he overpaid for Harper... A wise GM once told me "Only trade for players you actually want on your roster. That's really the entire point of all this.". So I went and got the player I wanted on my roster. Haters gonna hate. That guy's an idiot.
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Post by rockiesgm on Jan 2, 2017 10:31:29 GMT -5
A wise GM once told me "Only trade for players you actually want on your roster. That's really the entire point of all this.". So I went and got the player I wanted on my roster. Haters gonna hate. That guy's an idiot. That's a good point.
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 2, 2017 12:07:31 GMT -5
So is the top of your head.
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Post by rockiesgm on Jan 2, 2017 15:15:08 GMT -5
So is the top of your head. The trade has been modified. I think I still paid more than Connordog though.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jan 2, 2017 15:40:58 GMT -5
So is the top of your head. The trade has been modified. I think I still paid more than Connordog though. I'm certain of it, idiot.
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Post by rockiesgm on Jan 2, 2017 15:55:38 GMT -5
The trade has been modified. I think I still paid more than Connordog though. I'm certain of it, idiot. Once an idiot, always an idiot.
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 2, 2017 16:01:12 GMT -5
For the record though, because I know people are going to ask (one already has), there was actually a second trade agreed upon where Brian was going to have Hamels returned to him with a bunch more pieces going to Washington and some coming back. Hayes just amended the original trade and abbreviated it to make it one deal. But in actuality there were two separate deals.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jan 2, 2017 16:30:47 GMT -5
For the record though, because I know people are going to ask (one already has), there was actually a second trade agreed upon where Brian was going to have Hamels returned to him with a bunch more pieces going to Washington and some coming back. Hayes just amended the original trade and abbreviated it to make it one deal. But in actuality there were two separate deals. "In actuality, it was just 2 idiots being idiots and not getting it right the first time, like a couple of idiots." That's all I read there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 17:03:58 GMT -5
For the record though, because I know people are going to ask (one already has), there was actually a second trade agreed upon where Brian was going to have Hamels returned to him with a bunch more pieces going to Washington and some coming back. Hayes just amended the original trade and abbreviated it to make it one deal. But in actuality there were two separate deals. There were actually 3 separate deals: Deal 1 Benintendi for Hamel, Thompson, Ramirez 2017 1st rd pick and $20MM Deal 2 Sean Doolittle for 1st rd pick from deal 1 Deal 3 Hamel and $20MM for Kaprielian, Mondesi and Randolph Since it all happened in one 24 hour period I simplified it for posting to Benintendi for Ramirez, Thompson, Mondesi, Randolph, Kaprilien and Doolittle
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 17:08:23 GMT -5
For the record though, because I know people are going to ask (one already has), there was actually a second trade agreed upon where Brian was going to have Hamels returned to him with a bunch more pieces going to Washington and some coming back. Hayes just amended the original trade and abbreviated it to make it one deal. But in actuality there were two separate deals. There were actually 3 separate deals: Deal 1 Benintendi for Hamel, Thompson, Ramirez 2017 1st rd pick and $20MM Deal 2 Sean Doolittle for 1st rd pick from deal 1 Deal 3 Hamel and $20MM for Kaprielian, Mondesi and Randolph Since it all happened in one 24 hour period I simplified it for posting to Benintendi for Ramirez, Thompson, Mondesi, Randolph, Kaprilien and Doolittle This reads like a bait and switch con game being run. Good job folks.
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 2, 2017 17:22:54 GMT -5
Can I protest just the Doolittle for a 1st part of that whole scenario? Just for the fun of throwing a monkey wrench into the whole thing.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jan 2, 2017 17:26:40 GMT -5
Can I protest just the Doolittle for a 1st part of that whole scenario? Just for the fun of throwing a monkey wrench into the whole thing. Yes, please!
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Post by rockiesgm on Jan 2, 2017 17:46:57 GMT -5
Can I protest just the Doolittle for a 1st part of that whole scenario? Just for the fun of throwing a monkey wrench into the whole thing. Except that I gave you a second rounder for him. Take that wrench in your wrench, Sunshine.
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 4, 2017 0:35:13 GMT -5
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Post by Texas GM on Jan 4, 2017 8:37:42 GMT -5
Jeff just lays in the weeds and then pulls off these kinds of deals. OF's are scarce and expensive and so he turns a bloated catcher's contract into the guy who was 4th in MLB in homeruns. I hate you Jeff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 9:04:36 GMT -5
Jeff just lays in the weeds and then pulls off these kinds of deals. OF's are scarce and expensive and so he turns a bloated catcher's contract into the guy who was 4th in MLB in homeruns. I hate you Jeff. I like this trade for both Jeff and I even more now.
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Post by Texas GM on Jan 4, 2017 9:15:33 GMT -5
Jeff just lays in the weeds and then pulls off these kinds of deals. OF's are scarce and expensive and so he turns a bloated catcher's contract into the guy who was 4th in MLB in homeruns. I hate you Jeff. I like this trade for both Jeff and I even more now. You just unlocked Sanchez for him, added a power OF to his line-up on the cheap and took about 13M off his books. I hope you weren't expecting a Christmas card from the collective AL West.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 9:32:07 GMT -5
I like this trade for both Jeff and I even more now. You just unlocked Sanchez for him, added a power OF to his line-up on the cheap and took about 13M off his books. I hope you weren't expecting a Christmas card from the collective AL West. I received a catcher with VG defense and a 102 OPS+ for 2 years without wading into the free agent cesspool for a guy who doesn't have a position for me (both he and Cespedes get LF only ratings, and his is Poor at that) and is a free agent at the end of the year. I like Davis a lot, and if the NL had a DH I would likely have kept him, but this deal worked out well for me, and it's fair value (Martin will have a higher WAR projection than Davis). I'm not worried about the AL West, I'm worried about the Padres and the NL West. And do you think Sanchez was just to ride the pine for him? That's as ludicrous as trading Domingo Santana and a 3rd rounder for Brett Gardner.
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Post by Elephanti! on Jan 4, 2017 9:32:49 GMT -5
It was 1.5MM, and Russell Martin got a 3.1 WAR projection already; he was certainly worth the 10MM contract. He was a bit obsolete for me with Gary Sanchez around, but that's beside the point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 9:37:58 GMT -5
It was a pleasure working with you Jeff, good luck in the AL West this year.
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Post by Elephanti! on Jan 4, 2017 9:40:27 GMT -5
And to you in the NL.
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Post by Texas GM on Jan 4, 2017 9:48:18 GMT -5
You just unlocked Sanchez for him, added a power OF to his line-up on the cheap and took about 13M off his books. I hope you weren't expecting a Christmas card from the collective AL West. I received a catcher with VG defense and a 102 OPS+ for 2 years without wading into the free agent cesspool for a guy who doesn't have a position for me (both he and Cespedes get LF only ratings, and his is Poor at that) and is a free agent at the end of the year. I like Davis a lot, and if the NL had a DH I would likely have kept him, but this deal worked out well for me, and it's fair value (Martin will have a higher WAR projection than Davis). I'm not worried about the AL West, I'm worried about the Padres and the NL West. And do you think Sanchez was just to ride the pine for him? That's as ludicrous as trading Domingo Santana and a 3rd rounder for Brett Gardner. I wasn't the slightest bit concerned about the deal from your side. I'm groaning about what it did for the A's.
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Post by redsoxtim on Jan 5, 2017 1:27:53 GMT -5
You just unlocked Sanchez for him, added a power OF to his line-up on the cheap and took about 13M off his books. I hope you weren't expecting a Christmas card from the collective AL West. I received a catcher with VG defense and a 102 OPS+ for 2 years without wading into the free agent cesspool for a guy who doesn't have a position for me (both he and Cespedes get LF only ratings, and his is Poor at that) and is a free agent at the end of the year. I like Davis a lot, and if the NL had a DH I would likely have kept him, but this deal worked out well for me, and it's fair value (Martin will have a higher WAR projection than Davis). I'm not worried about the AL West, I'm worried about the Padres and the NL West. And do you think Sanchez was just to ride the pine for him? That's as ludicrous as trading Domingo Santana and a 3rd rounder for Brett Gardner. Hey, hey, hey keep the newbie out of this. I'm not a fan of Santana's extremely high K rate. And Santana was a less than replacement value player last year, so I'm not sure I see his ZiPS being too much higher than replacement level. I'm fine with this move.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jan 5, 2017 1:57:21 GMT -5
Tim, no one is safe! No matter where your transaction falls on the spectrum, there will be something to say about it. They think you traded some 40HR-potential guy and a pick for the end of Brett Gardner's career. Just call them all idiots. Not only will it make you feel better, but it's also true.
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Post by redsoxtim on Jan 5, 2017 4:21:43 GMT -5
As the saying goes, you've got potential in one hand and shit in the other. Let's see which one fills up faster.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 7:32:15 GMT -5
Santana for Gardner might not be too bad itself if you were on the verge of competing for division (likely something I would do if I needed a LF or CF), but the third round pick was completely unnecessary I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 13:45:17 GMT -5
That Trumbo trade is gonna get vetoed right?
Hector Santiago sucks
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jan 5, 2017 14:09:12 GMT -5
That Trumbo trade is gonna get vetoed right? Hector Santiago sucks Maybe? Though it appears we're protesting every 4th trade that gets posted. Some of the bad ones have to get thru, right?
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 5, 2017 14:21:07 GMT -5
That Trumbo trade is gonna get vetoed right? Hector Santiago sucks I like the deal! Santiago may suck, but Jim is going Full Krug again aND making his team worse. He'll have Goldy at 1B but then Myers and Trumbo in the OF. That may be the worst defensive OF in the history of NSBL. Trumbo playing the field negates all of his offensive value and actually makes it a loss.
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Post by Texas GM on Jan 5, 2017 14:27:44 GMT -5
That Trumbo trade is gonna get vetoed right? Hector Santiago sucks I must admit, the line between what passes the means test is extremely blurry. A MLI has a chance to outperform Santiago.
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