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Post by phillies17 on Jan 30, 2017 9:14:04 GMT -5
Question for the rest of the league: Have any of you received a trade inquiry from Matt that didn't involve Folty? Also, I'd like to see which Top 100 list(s) Gohara makes. I haven't seen Klaw's cause I don't pay for Insider. MLB Pipeline just released theirs and he didn't make it. BA and Sickels haven't released theirs either, and I don't think BP or 2080 have either. I like Gohara as much as the next guy, I even traded for him a year ago in MLBSA, bit his ceiling is pretty much unanimously viewed as a #3. It's too early for BP's top 100 but he is 3rd on the Seattle list. He is #77 on ESPN, they have him with ATL now but BP still has him with SEA. I have 3 other top X lists and he did not make any of them.
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 30, 2017 9:30:16 GMT -5
Connor is an Insider and he said KLaw does have Gohara at #77. Still doesn't take away the fact that you berate other owners for not having a plan when you do the same thing yourself. But you did turn Porcello into Rob Refsnyder, Jordan Patterson, Luiz Gohara, Mallex Smith, pick 3.25, and pick 4.09. So I guessing turning quality into quantity is pretty good. Even if you do lose out on a "Lefty Messiah" that you compared to Cole Hamels in text to me. Insider is super cheap (I got it for $3.99 by getting a discount magazine subscription). I mostly wanted it for some of the hockey stuff that appears on ESPN, and for $3.99 I figured it was a fair price. If you want to know the ranking position of your prospects, let me know and I can post them. Well look at Rich Uncle Pennybags.
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Post by Pirates GM on Jan 30, 2017 11:23:30 GMT -5
Connor is an Insider and he said KLaw does have Gohara at #77. Still doesn't take away the fact that you berate other owners for not having a plan when you do the same thing yourself. But you did turn Porcello into Rob Refsnyder, Jordan Patterson, Luiz Gohara, Mallex Smith, pick 3.25, and pick 4.09. So I guessing turning quality into quantity is pretty good. Even if you do lose out on a "Lefty Messiah" that you compared to Cole Hamels in text to me. Well, you being a steaming gobshite wouldn't care what I did. If I tried to compete, you'd be hyper critical. If I treaded water looking for a better plan, you'd be hyper critical. If I give up the ghost for a year or 2 to rebuild, you'd be hyper critical. Under the guise of smack talk, of course. So why do you even care what I do? Aren't I giving you and your Cubs exactly what you want? Maybe at the least, Sean should lose his privilege of protesting trades for the rest of the offseason. Sean: "I am protesting trades X, Y, and Z. They are not fair!" (A week passes, Sean makes a trade)Rest of the league: "Why in the world did you make that trade? That turns your already smoldering Brewers club into a 4-alarm dumpster fire." Sean: "DON'T TELL ME WHAT'S FAIR AND NOT FAIR! EVERY GM HAS THEIR OWN INTERNAL SENSE OF VALUE! YOU DON'T SEE WHAT I SEE IN THESE PLAYERS!!!11!1!1!1!!" What started out as mildly amusing this offseason has become significantly chafing at this point. If you're going to pull moves like this Sean, then at least stop protesting other people's trades. JIm
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 11:59:22 GMT -5
There's plenty of rationale to being a year too soon on a pitcher who was shut down last season with elbow and shoulder issues.
A year too late on a player like that gets you nothing.
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Post by raysgm on Jan 30, 2017 12:12:38 GMT -5
All of Sean's moves have been somewhere on the spectrum of defensible, except one. When he just gave away Chad Bettis. Chad Bettis would be his #1 starter at this point, while still having 1 pre-arb year and all 3 arbitration years left on his contract. I get not liking a guy and wanting to move him because he doesn't fit your window for competition, but at trade him for something. Don't just give him away.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jan 30, 2017 12:32:35 GMT -5
Well, you being a steaming gobshite wouldn't care what I did. If I tried to compete, you'd be hyper critical. If I treaded water looking for a better plan, you'd be hyper critical. If I give up the ghost for a year or 2 to rebuild, you'd be hyper critical. Under the guise of smack talk, of course. So why do you even care what I do? Aren't I giving you and your Cubs exactly what you want? Maybe at the least, Sean should lose his privilege of protesting trades for the rest of the offseason. Sean: "I am protesting trades X, Y, and Z. They are not fair!" (A week passes, Sean makes a trade)Rest of the league: "Why in the world did you make that trade? That turns your already smoldering Brewers club into a 4-alarm dumpster fire." Sean: "DON'T TELL ME WHAT'S FAIR AND NOT FAIR! EVERY GM HAS THEIR OWN INTERNAL SENSE OF VALUE! YOU DON'T SEE WHAT I SEE IN THESE PLAYERS!!!11!1!1!1!!" What started out as mildly amusing this offseason has become significantly chafing at this point. If you're going to pull moves like this Sean, then at least stop protesting other people's trades. JIm Oh jEEM, you so toxic. Let me put your mind at ease so you don't exhaust yourself. This little act of mine will end when free agency starts. Don't get so riled up. I'm just doing what I was taught to do from being in this league for years and years - posting inflammatory nonsense for the hell of it. I mean, you've made your name solely on this concept even going as far as using alter-egos to give you more ways to creatively turn otherwise benign topics into smack-fests. Don't let a practiced contrarian get under your skin. It's not worth it.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jan 30, 2017 12:40:28 GMT -5
All of Sean's moves have been somewhere on the spectrum of defensible, except one. When he just gave away Chad Bettis. Chad Bettis would be his #1 starter at this point, while still having 1 pre-arb year and all 3 arbitration years left on his contract. I get not liking a guy and wanting to move him because he doesn't fit your window for competition, but at trade him for something. Don't just give him away. I understand where you're coming from, Connor. I truly do. There is a good chance that I just got frustrated waiting for Bettis' sim numbers to translate into good sims. He kept getting better and better projections on his ERA+ and FIP-, but they never worked when you ran the sims. I didn't want to continue to pay his arbitration and I didn't want to go thru the process of seeking a trade in the offseason. In reality, what I should have done is just sit him on my reserve roster until he left Colorado and started getting projections from a real ballpark. Patience is not a virtue that I've ever practiced in this league and it has been to my team's detriment almost every time.
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Post by bluejaysgm on Jan 30, 2017 15:20:36 GMT -5
All of Sean's moves have been somewhere on the spectrum of defensible, except one. When he just gave away Chad Bettis. Chad Bettis would be his #1 starter at this point, while still having 1 pre-arb year and all 3 arbitration years left on his contract. I get not liking a guy and wanting to move him because he doesn't fit your window for competition, but at trade him for something. Don't just give him away. I understand where you're coming from, Connor. I truly do. There is a good chance that I just got frustrated waiting for Bettis' sim numbers to translate into good sims. He kept getting better and better projections on his ERA+ and FIP-, but they never worked when you ran the sims. I didn't want to continue to pay his arbitration and I didn't want to go thru the process of seeking a trade in the offseason. In reality, what I should have done is just sit him on my reserve roster until he left Colorado and started getting projections from a real ballpark. Patience is not a virtue that I've ever practiced in this league and it has been to my team's detriment almost every time. I do like that Bettis projection.
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 31, 2017 18:25:32 GMT -5
To BAL - Pick 2.19 in 2017 To TB - Greg Holland, $1.5 MM in 2017, and Pick 4.11 in 2017 Ass. You got to him before I could. Doubt I would have dropped two rounds to get him though.
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Post by Whitesox on Feb 18, 2017 18:02:14 GMT -5
I have no idea what all the collusion accusations were based on.... But Philly's first trade is 3 steals in one trade.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Mar 4, 2017 23:26:10 GMT -5
I know this is a smacktalk thread, but I just wanted to say that I really like that Addison Russell deal for both teams. Houston needed to continue to add talent as they build towards a powerful roster, and Texas needed another position player to support their upper-middle class rotation. I think it's smart deal.
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Post by Cubbies on Mar 6, 2017 11:23:07 GMT -5
Just so the league is notified, this trade has been disallowed due to Nova having a NTC.
Nats get: Luis Alejandro Basabe Parker Bridwell
Rox get: Ivan Nova
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Post by Pirates GM on Mar 6, 2017 11:38:52 GMT -5
Thank goodness. I was furious that the Basabe twins were being separated. Once at birth was enough.
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Post by Cubbies on Mar 6, 2017 11:51:08 GMT -5
Thank goodness. I was furious that the Basabe twins were being separated. Once at birth was enough. JIm Oh, I'm sure it's going to happen. Once Lee sets his sights on a player to acquire so he can trade to someone else, there's nothing stopping him. No price is too steep.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 13:32:16 GMT -5
Thank goodness. I was furious that the Basabe twins were being separated. Once at birth was enough. JIm Oh, I'm sure it's going to happen. Once Lee sets his sights on a player to acquire so he can trade to someone else, there's nothing stopping him. No price is too steep. Never met a trade I didn't like! Still looks like that is it for my trades. I need to look and set my 25 man roster. Lee
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Post by raysgm on Mar 12, 2017 21:40:27 GMT -5
Pretty happy Reyes/Mazara are out of my division. That's a hell of a price for 2 years of Hamels
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Post by redsoxtim on Mar 13, 2017 21:28:43 GMT -5
Pretty happy Reyes/Mazara are out of my division. That's a hell of a price for 2 years of Hamels No one can say that I'm not trying to go for it now.
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Post by Cubbies on Apr 3, 2017 10:58:51 GMT -5
PHI gets: Tyler Kolek Junior Fernandez TOR gets: Austin Gomber 2019 4th rd pick This is quite a different trade from the last time we saw Austin Gomber on the Pending Trades thread. Nice get, Mike. Go Zags!
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Post by phillies17 on Apr 3, 2017 15:32:26 GMT -5
I thought I heard a collective gasping from Phillies fans and the commissioners office after seeing yet another Philly / Toronto trade go across the wires. Then to see Gombers name and I think we may have lost a few of the elderly Philly faithful.
The poor city of heartbreak may not be ready to dust off plans for a duck boat parade but we have begun to exercise some past deamons. On the flip side the front offices of Lehigh Valley, Reading and Clearwater are complaining because they don't have the staff to support fans actually calling for tickets. They think its bad now, wait until they see this draft class in June, it will be as big as 2013-15 combined.
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Post by bluejaysgm on Apr 3, 2017 16:14:08 GMT -5
I still like Fernandez more than Gomber but with my upcoming # crunch and the chance (small I hope) that Fernandez slides to the pen this trade made sense for the Jays as it opens up a spot for one of my picks in the June draft. I think Philly is getting a guy that has a chance to be good (really good if he stays in the rotation) in Fernandez.
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Post by Cubbies on Jun 14, 2017 13:34:03 GMT -5
To MIL Brad Brach Matt Duffy Richie Martin 2017 Pick 4.25 for To NYM Didi Gregorius 2017 Pick 3.29 Let no one ever doubt Sean's ability to turn a quarter into three nickels.
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Post by LA Angels GM on Jun 18, 2017 22:29:04 GMT -5
With the trade of Dyson, his 16 steals moves him into a tie with Shane Victorino for 1st place in career steals for the Angels. Thought for sure he'd get that spot by himself.
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Post by raysgm on Jun 18, 2017 23:39:22 GMT -5
With the trade of Dyson, his 16 steals moves him into a tie with Shane Victorino for 1st place in career steals for the Angels. Thought for sure he'd get that spot by himself. How many steals do you have each guy down for? I have 62-58-16 for Dyson (2015-2017) and 43-21-42-42 for Victorino (2008-2011), which gives Victorino a 11 SB lead (148-137)?
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Post by Pirates GM on Jun 19, 2017 3:59:52 GMT -5
The fact that career fantasy SB is being actively tracked and debated is what makes this league awesome.
Long live the NSBL!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 6:23:00 GMT -5
With the trade of Dyson, his 16 steals moves him into a tie with Shane Victorino for 1st place in career steals for the Angels. Thought for sure he'd get that spot by himself. How many steals do you have each guy down for? I have 62-58-16 for Dyson (2015-2017) and 43-21-42-42 for Victorino (2008-2011), which gives Victorino a 11 SB lead (148-137)? 62+58+16 = 137? I don't know much about "new math", but don't 3 even numbers added together at least still result in an even number or have institutions of learning banned the use of "even" and "odd" as being categorical and divisive instead allowing numbers to choose their own descriptors and add up to what ever sum feels right to them?
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Post by Pirates GM on Jun 19, 2017 9:08:28 GMT -5
This is a multiple-level burn here.
Take note, kids.
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Post by Cubbies on Jun 19, 2017 9:57:35 GMT -5
or have institutions of learning banned the use of "even" and "odd" as being categorical and divisive instead allowing numbers to choose their own descriptors and add up to what ever sum feels right to them? You're not going to get an answer now. Connor has retreated to his Safe Space.
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Post by raysgm on Jun 19, 2017 10:44:51 GMT -5
How many steals do you have each guy down for? I have 62-58-16 for Dyson (2015-2017) and 43-21-42-42 for Victorino (2008-2011), which gives Victorino a 11 SB lead (148-137)? 62+58+16 = 137? I don't know much about "new math", but don't 3 even numbers added together at least still result in an even number or have institutions of learning banned the use of "even" and "odd" as being categorical and divisive instead allowing numbers to choose their own descriptors and add up to what ever sum feels right to them? Shoulda been 63 (not 62); nice catch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 15:43:16 GMT -5
That is the second time this year that Price has been dealt for Ramirez.
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Post by Texas GM on Jul 2, 2017 18:22:12 GMT -5
That is the second time this year that Price has been dealt for Ramirez. Really tough for me to fold up the tent on the season by dealing Price and Reed, but if you're not going to win it all, it's really hard to pass up a shot at up to 3-1/2 more years of Ramirez. I'll be needing both a 3B or an OF after this season and he'll fit the bill nicely. I gave up a first and Stripling to give it a run and it ultimately boiled down to dealing Reed and a first for 3-1/2 years of Ramirez + 2M , minus whatever hit my cap might take for winning 10-12 less games this year. Now the goal is to find a way to .500, which I've only missed once in my tenure here. In real life MLB, Ramirez celebrated the news by going 3-4 with 2 HR, 4 RS and 4 RBI.
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