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Post by nymetsgm on May 28, 2023 15:18:02 GMT -5
So, after we get things set up do we export to file or export to FTP?
What information do we need to send? I had a wrong player on my roster and released him (Tanner Banks) and made several roster moves.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on May 28, 2023 17:00:01 GMT -5
I just used the export to FTP since the settings should be included in the online league profile.
Travis can confirm when he gets back in town Tuesday.
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Post by Pirates GM on May 29, 2023 6:50:00 GMT -5
Herculean effort to save this season from the brink, Travis!
John or anyone else here who is in another online OOTP league already, have you had trouble also joining NSBL? I found Travis's e-mail directions very clear and easy to understand. But where he says click on "Online League Quick Start", that is no longer an option for me. It just takes me directly to my MLBSA team.
My only options on the opening page are now:
Continue game (MLBSA) Load Game New Tutorial Game New Standard Game New Historical Game New Custom Game New Quickstart Game Import OOTP 23 Game Historical Exhibition
JIm
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Post by Pirates GM on May 29, 2023 19:22:57 GMT -5
Yay! Got it figured out.
Also re: the quick start code. If anyone else is having trouble with Travis's e-mail directions, you have to copy the whole e-mail body from "==========" above the quick join code to the "==========" below the code. I think those = signs must cue the program that what is between them is the join code.
JIm
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Post by raysgm on May 30, 2023 10:32:53 GMT -5
Herculean effort to save this season from the brink, Travis! John or anyone else here who is in another online OOTP league already, have you had trouble also joining NSBL? I found Travis's e-mail directions very clear and easy to understand. But where he says click on "Online League Quick Start", that is no longer an option for me. It just takes me directly to my MLBSA team. My only options on the opening page are now: Continue game (MLBSA) Load Game New Tutorial Game New Standard Game New Historical Game New Custom Game New Quickstart Game Import OOTP 23 Game Historical Exhibition JIm Just out of curiosity, did you find the online league quick start menu?
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Post by Pirates GM on May 30, 2023 10:41:40 GMT -5
Yes! It was my fault (shocker, I know).
It ended up being in the menu options way down at the bottom of the page. It was my mistake thinking it was with the main options in the middle of the page.
Once I figured it out, moving between the 2 leagues is easy. Both are essentially saved games, so when you load your team, it just reverts to all the settings, etc of that particular league.
Thanks for asking, C-Dog!
JIm
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Post by LA Angels GM on May 30, 2023 11:36:39 GMT -5
I'm having issues.
I put in the code, and it starts downloading. After a minute or two, my program freezes and crashes. I try to do it again, and it says that the file already exists. I can see the file, but it won't let me open it. So I deleted it, and tried it again. Same thing.
Any advice?
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Post by Pirates GM on May 30, 2023 15:47:58 GMT -5
John, are you doing it through Steam, or just straight downloading the full program?
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Post by LA Angels GM on May 30, 2023 16:23:03 GMT -5
John, are you doing it through Steam, or just straight downloading the full program? I got OOTP through Steam.
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Post by sanfran on May 30, 2023 17:05:56 GMT -5
I just used the export to FTP since the settings should be included in the online league profile. I confirm. FTP should be setup in your league file. Proper upload of your team changes: File> Online League > Export your team via FTP.
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Post by sanfran on May 30, 2023 17:45:47 GMT -5
I'm having issues. I put in the code, and it starts downloading. After a minute or two, my program freezes and crashes. I try to do it again, and it says that the file already exists. I can see the file, but it won't let me open it. So I deleted it, and tried it again. Same thing. Any advice? After deleteing the file you said it did the same thing. Does that mean it froze and crashed again, or reported the file already existed? If it freezes, it might just be really slow (unless you get a crash message). the file is about 400 Mb and takes 5 minutes to load first time. Try deleteing from the "Load Game" menu and redownload. For Steam, games saves can be saved locally or in the Steam Cloud. This might make recovery/delete files different. My other league is saved via cloud, so not real helpful to delete. Right click the game in steam > Properties > General tab will tell you if it's local or Cloud. Properties > Local Files > Browse will take you to local install folders. Game save is usually in [install folder]/Out of the Park 24/data/saved_games/NSBL2023.lg (my steam folder is empty due to Cloud save). But if you see the .lg file, you can delete and go to download again.
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Post by KC Royals Nate on May 30, 2023 20:31:38 GMT -5
I (KC) am currently in control of Detroit. How can i adjust this?
thanks Nate
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Post by sanfran on May 30, 2023 20:44:49 GMT -5
sending Nate an update
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Post by sanfran on May 30, 2023 20:58:07 GMT -5
We're bound for some hiccups like that. Here's my plan for this week. Next couple of days I'm going to do some local machine test runs to make sure I can run the sim, do restores and have most of the settings correct. Friday, I plan on starting our "Practice" season. Will run daily sims that anyone can participate in by sending roster updates, and downloading season changes. Anyone who isn't ready by Friday can still jump in at any point and get a lot of experience out of the practice. It's not necessary you be ready on Friday. I'll try to assist anyone still connecting through the week & weekend. The practice sim will focus on A> informing us if the league settings look reasonable and B> give us a good idea how the sim will run in our regular weekly rotation.
I'm targeting a "go live" date for league play on June 18. That gives us 2 weeks to run practice. But this will also depend on everyone getting a good roster submitted after the database restore to Opening Day.
A new league file has been posted tonight. No big changes. I released some extraneous minor leaguers that didn't get purged for some reason. Mostly DSL & Rookie ball guys. There may still be a couple hidden in AAA/AA. If you notice any I can cut them. and if you notice anyone usable missing from your rosters, let me know.
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Post by LA Angels GM on May 31, 2023 20:37:01 GMT -5
Still freezing OOTP for me. My version is completely up to date. MLBSA loads fine, so I know my computer is able to do it. They did have us do it a different way, though.
I do not know how to save a game via the Steam Cloud. I wonder if that would work better.
I'm heading out of town tomorrow morning until Monday night, and I am not bringing my computer with me. So I'll try any suggestions you guys may have next week.
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Post by LA Angels GM on May 31, 2023 20:50:18 GMT -5
Ok, the box is checked for "Keep games saves in the Steam Cloud for OOTP24." Guess that means I'm saving to the Steam Cloud, eh? But I also definately have a save file on my computer.
It's times like this that I feel my age. I used to think I was technically savvy.
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Post by sanfran on Jun 1, 2023 14:39:34 GMT -5
You can manually download the league file here: www.thensbl.com/nsblsimmer/nsbl23ts.lg.zipUnzip that file in your "Saved_games" folder and it should open locally. Test an FTP upload of your changes if you do that.
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Post by sanfran on Jun 2, 2023 23:18:09 GMT -5
The Practice Season has begun. I uploaded a file update Friday at 11pm CDT. We are 10 days into the season. If you haven't uploaded a roster, please jump in. No harm in practice. I plan on doing a 1-2 week sim daily every evening for 2 weeks. Don't feel obligated to update every sim, but do try more than 1 a week.
I'll write up more in the morning - pretty much spent tonight.
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Post by raysgm on Jun 3, 2023 0:38:05 GMT -5
The Practice Season has begun. I uploaded a file update Friday at 11pm CDT. We are 10 days into the season. If you haven't uploaded a roster, please jump in. No harm in practice. I plan on doing a 1-2 week sim daily every evening for 2 weeks. Don't feel obligated to update every sim, but do try more than 1 a week. I'll write up more in the morning - pretty much spent tonight. My personal computer had the yips so haven't been able to do much outside the initial tests, will try to submit a more involved roster tomorrow and mess around with it! Very excited to see how it works!
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Post by raysgm on Jun 3, 2023 11:32:30 GMT -5
The Practice Season has begun. I uploaded a file update Friday at 11pm CDT. We are 10 days into the season. If you haven't uploaded a roster, please jump in. No harm in practice. I plan on doing a 1-2 week sim daily every evening for 2 weeks. Don't feel obligated to update every sim, but do try more than 1 a week. I'll write up more in the morning - pretty much spent tonight. My personal computer had the yips so haven't been able to do much outside the initial tests, will try to submit a more involved roster tomorrow and mess around with it! Very excited to see how it works! Travis was there a difference between the test league you had set up for the committee and this practice season league? When I loaded in just now the only GMs shown were the committee, and the league has not started simming yet
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Post by sanfran on Jun 3, 2023 11:55:26 GMT -5
I reloaded the file this morning at 830 CDT. Is that the one you grabbed? -Sean reported an issue with last night's file, which seems to have been fixed by a patch and reload on my end.
There was an OOTP patch this week. They said it was back compatible with the previous version. Commish probably needs to be updated first. Try an update if you haven't (Steam would be auto-updated already).
There's only one game file on the server. Not sure why you would see or load the old game, are you sure you opened the right one? But it should have downloaded the right version.
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Post by sanfran on Jun 3, 2023 12:18:48 GMT -5
New to this league file. Under your manager settings. All roles should be set to the human manager/GM. Please leave those settings. Previously, I had one setting on AI and it led to significant minor league signings. I expect to keep the minors clear of players not on your 60 man roster.
40(60) man roster removed. Some players seemed to reject minor league assignments. We don't use options, so no use for a 40.
Injuries. Set to Normal (OOTP classic). In my sims, the league seemed to have 30-48 ML injuries at a time. Minor leaguers are "simming" games, but we aren't tracking that. It will lead to simmed injuries on our reserve roster, which we haven't dealt with before. OOTP can seem brutal with injuries, but everyone says they research it and find that it is very realistic. Being a sim league, we will keep major injuries capped at 60 days. Players will still suffer a UCL tear for 12 months, but I will as commish adjust every injury at ML/MiL level to 60 day max. This mirrors our DMB experience. Unfortunately, there is no setting for this. It will have to be manual. For practice season, I'm not bothering with the reduction.
Further injury suggestion. Quick returns from injury can be stressful. Playing while fatigued can lead to injury. Set your backups to play appropriately. One day off is usually sufficient. One rest day a week is generally plenty. Some guys can go longer, just like real life, it's unpredictable.
Roster - easy mode, set the roster for RH/LH depth and let it run. Advanced - you can set 7 day lineups to customize batting orders and subs and sometimes pitching matchups. Depends on the opponent. I generally save that effort for the playoffs in my games.
I plan on running my sims in the evening. Seems best way to update everyone when live is to post on the forum. As always any questions let me know - i'm open to suggestions, this is all new for everyone.
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Post by raysgm on Jun 3, 2023 12:57:23 GMT -5
I reloaded the file this morning at 830 CDT. Is that the one you grabbed? -Sean reported an issue with last night's file, which seems to have been fixed by a patch and reload on my end. There was an OOTP patch this week. They said it was back compatible with the previous version. Commish probably needs to be updated first. Try an update if you haven't (Steam would be auto-updated already). There's only one game file on the server. Not sure why you would see or load the old game, are you sure you opened the right one? But it should have downloaded the right version. I'm on steam so I think I should be updated I'm not sure I opened the right one....or how to change it if I did. I'm working off an email you sent 11 days ago (will fwd to you). The league name is "NSBL23ts". I had submitted one lineup mod via FTP (just demoting my catchers to make sure you got it), then hadn't really touched it since.
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Post by raysgm on Jun 3, 2023 14:06:39 GMT -5
I'm in! Looks great! The fix for me was the delete the league save and reloading (thanks Travis for the suggestion)
A couple notes:
-Are we sticking with stars for overall/potential? -Are we sure that all the settings that need to be turned off are off? I see in the manager list we are all listed as "Unproved" (except Nate, who is "Inexperienced"). I know from past games manager reputations did play a factor in some parts of the gameplay, which is not something I imagine we want in this league.
And a question:
-I don't think you can (or at least my googling suggests you can't), but can anybody confirm/deny that you cannot import/export a saved rotation/lineup/player settings from another game save? I know in my test league I was messing around with a couple months ago I had changed my lineup quite a bit, figured it would be easier to import that rather than flip back and forth between the game saves copying everything over
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Post by sanfran on Jun 3, 2023 16:54:27 GMT -5
I never even thought about overall/potential stars. So used to that as the default. I should set it to 20/80 scale. manager reputation Nate "earned" that grade by winning games. Not sure how it effects gameplay - usually its more about owner interest and owners are turned off. If we can find that setting, I'll turn it off. There are about 3500 options in the menus - so no, i'm not certain everything is set. Its a lot, but mostly common sense. Happy to share any settings or snapshots if we want to go over that detail.
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Post by Pirates GM on Jun 3, 2023 20:57:08 GMT -5
1. I really like stars for overall/potential. I would prefer we keep that, if possible!
2. If anyone is getting error messages when they attempt to export a file, try uninstalling and reinstalling the program. I had to do that in MLBSA when that was happening to me. If you're going through Steam, it works great. You uninstall, Steam keeps all of your current settings, you re-install, and then haven't missed a beat.
Thanks for all your hard work, Travis and Connor!
JIm
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Post by sanfran on Jun 3, 2023 21:22:10 GMT -5
New week updated. Game date Apr 17.
I did flip from stars to 20/80 to give it a look. We can always flip back.
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Post by raysgm on Jun 4, 2023 1:00:06 GMT -5
New week updated. Game date Apr 17. I did flip from stars to 20/80 to give it a look. We can always flip back. My save seems to still be at April 10...tried to delete league/re-load, and still at April 10
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Post by nymetsgm on Jun 4, 2023 8:06:36 GMT -5
after spending the better part of yesterday afternoon/evening messing with it I finally deleted and reloaded the program this morning and the April 10 file was there, but not with the roster I loaded up on Friday.
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Post by sanfran on Jun 4, 2023 8:46:04 GMT -5
wtf? You are using FTP? I don't know why the game date would not change. The file date on the server is correct. The upload reported success. we've seen successes. I have limited ability to test what you guys are experiencing. I can log in as a GM, but since the master file is already local (as commish), I'm not convinced if I am downloading an update as a GM. I suppose i could sim as Commish then log back in as GM and try for a download to overwrite..... YES, I did this test and it correctly back dated me to the online file date.
I updated game date to April 24 - sent a new file in case something was wrong with previous file.
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