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Post by Cubbies on Jun 17, 2015 12:14:31 GMT -5
A GM brought this up to me and I was wondering what other GMs thought. I am pretty indifferent to the idea of using the DH in the NL. All I would recommend is that if we do it, we push out implementation a couple seasons to give teams a chance to start drafting for a future DH.
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Post by LA Angels GM on Jun 18, 2015 10:34:34 GMT -5
I'm an AL guy, so obviously my opinion is not worth as much as the NL teams, but I think we need to keep it as real as possible. If MLB ever adds the DH in the NL (which I do feel like will happen within the next 10 years), then we should do it.
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Post by Texas GM on Jun 18, 2015 10:37:51 GMT -5
I'm an AL guy, so obviously my opinion is not worth as much as the NL teams, but I think we need to keep it as real as possible. If MLB ever adds the DH in the NL (which I do feel like will happen within the next 10 years), then we should do it. Agreed 100%. I hate that I'm in the AL because I hate the DH, but let's keep it in line with MLB, who, I'm sure will change it within the next 3-5 years as some sort of bone to throw to the union for another concession in the next deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 10:55:35 GMT -5
I hate the DH with nearly every fiber of my being. To paraphrase, The DH is da devil. However, within the context of the NSBL universe and understanding that the DMB software makes no allowance for pitcher's hitting abilities or actually utilizing a bullpen in any manner that makes sense, I could learn to accept a DH.  |
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jun 18, 2015 14:41:39 GMT -5
We need to adopt the DH in the NL in order to create a better balance within the league as a whole. I've never been a fan of the DH. I'm equally in favor of eliminating the DH from the AL. I just know that some of the players we have access to in this league are DHs. Again, this is an issue that doesn't require tiptoeing. If we do it, we should just do it as soon as the decision is made. NL teams would be better off playing a defensive specialist in place of their pitchers. A lot of NL teams in this league simply move a terrible defender to DH and bring in a guy that can catch the damn ball. It's already happening. Giving teams time to plan for something like this is completely irrelevant.
NL DH or AL no DH... either way is fine with me.
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Post by DodgersGM on Jun 18, 2015 16:19:01 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree with Sean on this one. NL teams already have to cover the DH for inter league games. The minors are full of guys that can hit but can't catch a baseball with a bushel basket. If everyone is on board with it I don't see any reason why it couldn't happen next year. There's only one half of one league that doesn't use the DH in professional baseball, they're used all through the minors. Besides, who wouldn't be on board with setting 2 lineups instead of 4?
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Post by Cubbies on Jun 18, 2015 16:22:36 GMT -5
Besides, who wouldn't be on board with setting 2 lineups instead of 4? I could go either way, keep it out or adapt it. But only having to set half the line-ups would be awesome. |
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Post by bluejaysgm on Jun 18, 2015 16:37:31 GMT -5
I'd prefer to leave it as is, but I wouldn't make a fuss if it was changed either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 2:15:04 GMT -5
We seem to be getting further and further away from simming real life MLB. I joined this sim league because it gave me a chance to be a hypothetical GM of a MLB team, and follow closely alongside MLB with things like minor league roster, six years of control, the ability to extend your players, free agency, trading, drafting, etc. It seems like we're hellbent on getting away from any semblance of MLB though, with RFA and now DH in the NL. I just don't see the reason, hell, I don't agree with the ability to trade draft picks but can see why, though I would like to see first rounders be untradeable, just like the winter draft. Anyway, just like with RFA, I am against this. I would also prefer the roster stays at 50, I really don't see the need to expand the rosters, the 25 man roster hasn't changed, so there really isn't a reason to move from the 50 limit.
If all these things go through, my interest in this sim league is going to diminish greatly... it already has a bit, just reading these proposed changes that seem to be on the fast track to getting pushed through.
My preferences are -
No DH in NL
Keep CE+2 but tweak values somehow
50man limit
No trade for first rounders in summer draft
Must be draft eligible in current MLB draft to be drafted in summer draft. Must've been MLB draft eligible in previous MLB draft to be drafted in wintr draft.
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Post by Cubbies on Jun 20, 2015 10:32:12 GMT -5
 I can understand not wanting the DH. It doesn't sound like a lot of people are "for" it. At most, some seem indifferent. I just mentioned it because it was mentioned to me. |
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Post by Pirates GM on Jun 24, 2015 19:30:48 GMT -5
We seem to be getting further and further away from simming real life MLB. I joined this sim league because it gave me a chance to be a hypothetical GM of a MLB team, and follow closely alongside MLB with things like minor league roster, six years of control, the ability to extend your players, free agency, trading, drafting, etc. It seems like we're hellbent on getting away from any semblance of MLB though, with RFA and now DH in the NL. +100 People find a league like this appealing because it does mimic real life, and dealing with the hurdles of smaller payrolls, hitting the pitcher, etc. are all a part of that. I think GMs really like those challenges. Even the Winter Draft- though not "real"- I think mimics the real-life compensatory rounds of the summer draft, and eliminates controversy from the league, because it does away with only top 10 compensation. So I don't think the NSBL has to be 100% exactly realistic, but it should maintain some close semblance to it. Adding a DH to the National League would deviate from that. While GMs seem to be focused on the "disadvantage" of NL teams not being able to play all-bat, no-glove fielders, they are overlooking the advantage NL pitchers enjoy of facing generally weaker lineups. Great post, Mike. JIm |
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Post by Cubbies on Jun 25, 2015 12:04:31 GMT -5
So, I am going to say we're passing on this idea for now. Only two GMs seemed for it, and everyone else was either vehemently against it or "meh" about it at best. That doesn't sound like a rule that teams want changed.
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 22, 2016 12:13:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 12:52:42 GMT -5
I heard that on my drive in this morning but hoped it was just some talking heads blowing smoke. That is some bullshit.
However, in answer to your question I think the point is to hold as close to RL as possible. As much as I hate the DH, and I "throw up in my mouth just saying it" hate it, I would vote to adopt once the NL does.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 13:10:15 GMT -5
I heard that on my drive in this morning but hoped it was just some talking heads blowing smoke. That is some bullshit. However, in answer to your question I think the point is to hold as close to RL as possible. As much as I hate the DH, and I "throw up in my mouth just saying it" hate it, I would vote to adopt once the NL does. This is where I'm at too. Hate it, absolutely hate it, but if they do bring it to NL, we do the same (just like the Houston realignment). |
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Post by bigredmachine on Jan 22, 2016 13:59:59 GMT -5
While I prefer keeping the league as close to mlb, I wouldnt mind a NL DH. I think if the mlb announces it we could do it early but we shouldnt make the change on the anticipation they're going to make a change. Would we entertain the idea of swapping leagues? If two managers from opposite leagues wanted to switch, could they agree to swap franchises by name only and keeping their own roster intact?
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 22, 2016 14:06:22 GMT -5
While I prefer keeping the league as close to mlb, I wouldnt mind a NL DH. I think if the mlb announces it we could do it early but we shouldnt make the change on the anticipation they're going to make a change. Would we entertain the idea of swapping leagues? If two managers from opposite leagues wanted to switch, could they agree to swap franchises by name only and keeping their own roster intact? The thought of teams doing that has occurred to me, but it's never been asked. The closest we had was when Rich's wife was the Giants owner and the Angels came available, she asked if she could switch teams since she was an Angels fan IRL. We allowed that since she was in good standing, and I think we'd do the same again, as long as owners were in good standing and there were no objections. You trying to move to the AL Central to get away from the yearly ass-kicking you've been receiving? |
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Post by bigredmachine on Jan 22, 2016 15:04:57 GMT -5
While I prefer keeping the league as close to mlb, I wouldnt mind a NL DH. I think if the mlb announces it we could do it early but we shouldnt make the change on the anticipation they're going to make a change. Would we entertain the idea of swapping leagues? If two managers from opposite leagues wanted to switch, could they agree to swap franchises by name only and keeping their own roster intact? The thought of teams doing that has occurred to me, but it's never been asked. The closest we had was when Rich's wife was the Giants owner and the Angels came available, she asked if she could switch teams since she was an Angels fan IRL. We allowed that since she was in good standing, and I think we'd do the same again, as long as owners were in good standing and there were no objections. You trying to move to the AL Central to get away from the yearly ass-kicking you've been receiving? Oh well at least I'm not like Jim and ALWAYS the bridesmaid. I won at least once in the last 3 years. I was just curious. In the past when I had Miggy and Rizzo I would of loved to have been in the AL. |
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Post by Pirates GM on Jan 22, 2016 17:14:03 GMT -5
Hey.
I can't help the fact that for 2 years straight now, Joe traded some of his best players, then miraculously went on insane runs after trading said players to win the division.
JIm
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 22, 2016 19:16:02 GMT -5
Doolittle? He and CarGo are the only two I traded, and I tell you, removing CarGo was my catalyst.
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