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Post by sanfran on Jul 16, 2024 20:59:07 GMT -5
We are moving to StatsPlus immediately. Full migration is this weekend. We can run hybrid this week. The roster changes AFTER 7.21 sim will require the below update. Why? Because our old web host is hosing us on costs AND is not really functional with OOTP, whereas StatsPlus is fully integrated. You'll love using the site for easily browsing box scores. What is changing? Spreadsheet and Forum are staying the same. Draft and trades stay the same. What's new is the site "thensbl.com" will be offline, replaced by StatsPlus. The (backend) data host will be StatsPlus. What do GMs need to do? ONE THING To connect to StatsPlus - Everyone will need to load the attached .DAT file to their local machine. This file holds the FTP setup. The easiest update is to replace the file manually. - Close OOTP
- download the attached accountsdata_gms.dat file needs to go in your game settings folder. It will replace the existing file
- OPEN File Explorer - COPY the downloaded file
- PASTE destination is your league settings folder. non-Steam: C:\Users\[ your local user ]\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 25\saved_games\NSBL24.lg\settings
- you are replacing an existing file so yes, copy over it.
- Then we need to test that the new settings take effect.
- Start OOTP, open NSBL, download from FTP - same as before. Make a roster change. Send an update. Both the Download and Upload FTPs should give a positive response.
Where is StatsPlus? atl-02.statsplus.net/nsbl/Login is optional at this point. You can use the site to browse stats without logging in. The only functions I know of required of a login are draft/trade/voting. I would like to implement these, but we are near the trade deadline. I think we can try a hybrid trade system and see about testing this season and going full in the offseason. You can also send trade proposals with the app!! Will there be More? Slack and Discord. An Offseason discussion. Either can be integrated with the league. My other league uses Slack. I'm not convinced its a replacement for our forum, but we should consider it for some uses. Plus either can greatly increase engagement. Q.How do we replace the permanent draft logs? Also live sim playoffs. Come playoff time I would like to test the live-sim functions. Especially for head-to-head. The ones I've seen are just boxscore watching. Would be nice to have a shared experience. For the nerds a user manual: wiki.statsplus.net/accountsdata_gms.dat (991 B) |
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Post by bluejaysgm on Jul 17, 2024 7:17:04 GMT -5
Oh my, hope I understand all of this right when I go to try this Friday.
So new website is what all of this is for?
Of course my school laptop blocks the new website!!
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jul 17, 2024 7:42:55 GMT -5
Oh my, hope I understand all of this right when I go to try this Friday. So new website is what all of this is for? Of course my school laptop blocks the new website!! We are just reducing operating expenses for the league. We don't really use the full website anymore. Joe has been taking care of the hosting for years and it just seems silly when there is a good cheaper option. |
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Post by LA Angels GM on Jul 17, 2024 9:51:01 GMT -5
I'm totally down for this if it saves money, but I'm lost on step 3.
I've downloaded the file. Now what? I don't know what "File Explorer" is, and there's no option to copy the file.
Looking ahead, I have no idea where the league settings folder is.
Last season, I couldn't get the game loaded until over halfway through the season. If it takes me several weeks to get this figured out, after I made big moves to go for the playoffs, I won't be a happy Angel.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jul 17, 2024 9:59:23 GMT -5
I'm totally down for this if it saves money, but I'm lost on step 3. I've downloaded the file. Now what? I don't know what "File Explorer" is, and there's no option to copy the file. Looking ahead, I have no idea where the league settings folder is. Last season, I couldn't get the game loaded until over halfway through the season. If it takes me several weeks to get this figured out, after I made big moves to go for the playoffs, I won't be a happy Angel. your OOTP folder should be in your "Documents". So, you want to find the file you downloaded and right click to copy. Go to your "Documents" folder and find the OOTP folder. You might want to open your file explore twice so you can have one open on Documents and one on Downloads. I hope this helps. |
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Post by LA Angels GM on Jul 17, 2024 10:03:34 GMT -5
Maybe scratch what I wrote above? Maybe I did it? I don't really know, because I am computer illiterate when it comes to technical stuff like this.
But I think I did it, then I made a small change and exported it. Is it possible to confirm if it worked, or not?
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Post by LA Angels GM on Jul 17, 2024 10:05:36 GMT -5
I'm totally down for this if it saves money, but I'm lost on step 3. I've downloaded the file. Now what? I don't know what "File Explorer" is, and there's no option to copy the file. Looking ahead, I have no idea where the league settings folder is. Last season, I couldn't get the game loaded until over halfway through the season. If it takes me several weeks to get this figured out, after I made big moves to go for the playoffs, I won't be a happy Angel. your OOTP folder should be in your "Documents". So, you want to find the file you downloaded and right click to copy. Go to your "Documents" folder and find the OOTP folder. You might want to open your file explore twice so you can have one open on Documents and one on Downloads. I hope this helps. I think that's what I did... Sorry for my computer illiteracy everyone. I reallllllly want to get this working so I can kick all your butts in the playoffs. And I do think live sims would be awesome. If we could somehow play it like you do in a single player game, where you can make your own lineup and pitching changes, that would be awesome. |
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Post by Cubbies on Jul 17, 2024 11:32:59 GMT -5
This is all on me, gents. The cost for just the domain name was up to $44 every year (and rising), and then another $12/mo for web hosting (also rising). That's $188 a year. I didn't mind doing it when we were still using the website like we did for DMB, because I love this league. But it didn't work for OOTP so it made more sense to go with Stats+ which is a third of the cost and you get more functionality out of the website.
I still have all the old website files, DMB season files, etc. I'll see if I can try to find a way to put league history onto the message board so it's not lost forever.
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Post by Elephanti! on Jul 17, 2024 11:41:41 GMT -5
I did this last night (I think) without issue. I agree stats+ is the way to go, and if we do end up with a Discord channel it can be integrated into it. Example:  |
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Post by sanfran on Jul 17, 2024 12:52:02 GMT -5
Maybe scratch what I wrote above? Maybe I did it? I don't really know, because I am computer illiterate when it comes to technical stuff like this. But I think I did it, then I made a small change and exported it. Is it possible to confirm if it worked, or not? YOU DID IT!! I see successful exports from LAA, OAK, MIL |
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Post by sanfran on Jul 17, 2024 12:54:06 GMT -5
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Post by Pirates GM on Jul 17, 2024 14:30:00 GMT -5
This is all on me, gents. The cost for just the domain name was up to $44 every year (and rising), and then another $12/mo for web hosting (also rising). That's $188 a year. I didn't mind doing it when we were still using the website like we did for DMB, because I love this league. But it didn't work for OOTP so it made more sense to go with Stats+ which is a third of the cost and you get more functionality out of the website. I still have all the old website files, DMB season files, etc. I'll see if I can try to find a way to put league history onto the message board so it's not lost forever. Thanks for spending so much of your personal funds to maintain this website, Joe. We had a great run here! JIm |
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Post by Pirates GM on Jul 17, 2024 15:10:27 GMT -5
Exported! The key line of directions here was this. Otherwise, no way in heck I find where I'm supposed to replace this file:
PASTE destination is your league settings folder. non-Steam: C:\Users\[ your local user ]\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 25\saved_games\NSBL24.lg\settings
If your goal with these directions was to make me rock hard, Travis, then mission accomplished. My existing draft hardness escalated to obsidian levels after this post. Let's do this.
JIm
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Post by LA Angels GM on Jul 17, 2024 15:33:32 GMT -5
Exported! The key line of directions here was this. Otherwise, no way in heck I find where I'm supposed to replace this file: PASTE destination is your league settings folder. non-Steam: C:\Users\[ your local user ]\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 25\saved_games\NSBL24.lg\settingsIf your goal with these directions was to make me rock hard, Travis, then mission accomplished. My existing draft hardness escalated to obsidian levels after this post. Let's do this. JIm Agreed. I use Steam, but still did this. No idea what you're supposed to do if you have Steam. |
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Post by Pirates GM on Jul 17, 2024 15:35:00 GMT -5
I actually use Steam now too, as non-Steam was an effing disaster. I still did it. I conformed, which is odd, because I rarely conform. It felt great.
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Post by Texas GM on Jul 17, 2024 16:26:32 GMT -5
Has any GM NOT using Steam successfully gotten this to work? I downloaded the file, copied it over and replaced the old file in settings. When I try to download the current files in FTP, I get an error every single time and have to restore to my last file.
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Post by bluejaysgm on Jul 17, 2024 18:09:05 GMT -5
Has any GM NOT using Steam successfully gotten this to work? I downloaded the file, copied it over and replaced the old file in settings. When I try to download the current files in FTP, I get an error every single time and have to restore to my last file. I haven't tried yet, hoping to give it a try tomorrow. I will say everything with statsplus is blocked on my computer for work. I'm hoping I can view it on my phone, we will see. |
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Post by Texas GM on Jul 17, 2024 19:29:40 GMT -5
I believe I figured it out. I guess there was an update last week and I didn't re-download the game and get the update. I did that and now it works.
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Post by Cubbies on Jul 18, 2024 8:20:36 GMT -5
So I checked the Stats+ site last night to look around it and I... FUCKING... LOVE... IT!!!
It is so much more interactive than the static pages DMB used to spit out. You get WAR numbers, WPA, etc. You can click on a column to sort by it, or even click on a player's name to see a small stats pop-up with an option to go to their full page.
And if they are injured, a small red handicapped sign appears by their name. Does that mean we can start calling it the DL instead of the IL again?
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Post by phillies17 on Jul 18, 2024 9:51:49 GMT -5
This interface is very nice. My company IT does not block it so that is a plus.
Is the export check a manual activity on your part? I linked to the new system and did an export last night and this morning but the Phillies still show a red X. I look good in the OOTP file, just want to make sure I am properly configured.
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Post by bluejaysgm on Jul 18, 2024 16:13:55 GMT -5
I have done the above and exported my team. Hopefully it worked.
And... it did. I see a green check!!
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Post by Elephanti! on Jul 18, 2024 20:50:41 GMT -5
Not sure if this is possible but when thensbl.com goes offline can it redirect to the forums because that's how I get here on my phone.
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Post by Cubbies on Jul 18, 2024 21:09:37 GMT -5
Not sure if this is possible but when thensbl.com goes offline can it redirect to the forums because that's how I get here on my phone. I don't think so. My time with them ended on the 15th. We're just in a grace period right now. I think we're gonna get a 404 when that is up. I use Chrome on my phone, and if I just start typing "NSBL..." the rest of the message board address autofills in. You can also create a new bookmark. |
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Post by Pirates GM on Jul 19, 2024 6:53:21 GMT -5
We’re going to lose all of my best material here. That’s the collateral damage you just can’t assign a number to.
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Post by LA Angels GM on Jul 19, 2024 7:23:14 GMT -5
We’re going to lose all of my best material here. That’s the collateral damage you just can’t assign a number to. It sounds like the message board will still be here. Just not the home page, which, let's be real... did anyone use that anymore? I would use it to pull up the rosters, and that's about it. Speaking of, could we potentially have a pinned post here with the roster spreadsheet? |
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Post by Cubbies on Jul 19, 2024 8:03:58 GMT -5
We’re going to lose all of my best material here. That’s the collateral damage you just can’t assign a number to. It sounds like the message board will still be here. Just not the home page, which, let's be real... did anyone use that anymore? I would use it to pull up the rosters, and that's about it. Speaking of, could we potentially have a pinned post here with the roster spreadsheet? I'm not sure if those demon devices known as iPhones have it, but I have Sheets as an app on my android and I have the spreadsheet linked in there. And then also on my laptop bookmarks bar I have it linked. That's all I need. I can see what I can do to put a link here though. |
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Post by nymetsgm on Jul 19, 2024 8:40:34 GMT -5
I have the Sheets app on my iPhone also.
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Post by nymetsgm on Jul 19, 2024 8:44:24 GMT -5
I have the Sheets app on my iPhone also. |
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Post by LA Angels GM on Jul 19, 2024 9:51:21 GMT -5
It sounds like the message board will still be here. Just not the home page, which, let's be real... did anyone use that anymore? I would use it to pull up the rosters, and that's about it. Speaking of, could we potentially have a pinned post here with the roster spreadsheet? I'm not sure if those demon devices known as iPhones have it, but I have Sheets as an app on my android and I have the spreadsheet linked in there. And then also on my laptop bookmarks bar I have it linked. That's all I need. I can see what I can do to put a link here though. I have a Pixel, so Google is literally everywhere on my phone. I do keep a copy in my Drive, which works, but I do also find myself wanting to look at it when I'm already on the board. That's when I head over to the home page and open it up, rather than opening my Drive and clicking through a few folders. It just saves time. I open it both ways. It would be pretty easy. Just create a new thread, post the link below, and pin it. That way, it's always at the top, just like this thread is now. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16s8weHbZkpf-2SyidRd1df4Z0f36NWnNzhH2BJw1kfc/edit?usp=sharing |
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jul 19, 2024 11:48:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure if those demon devices known as iPhones have it, but I have Sheets as an app on my android and I have the spreadsheet linked in there. And then also on my laptop bookmarks bar I have it linked. That's all I need. I can see what I can do to put a link here though. I have a Pixel, so Google is literally everywhere on my phone. I do keep a copy in my Drive, which works, but I do also find myself wanting to look at it when I'm already on the board. That's when I head over to the home page and open it up, rather than opening my Drive and clicking through a few folders. It just saves time. I open it both ways. It would be pretty easy. Just create a new thread, post the link below, and pin it. That way, it's always at the top, just like this thread is now. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16s8weHbZkpf-2SyidRd1df4Z0f36NWnNzhH2BJw1kfc/edit?usp=sharingI'll work on building a simple link tree site for our message board, OOTP site, and roster Gsheet this weekend. Sarah is going to a beer festival so I'll have most of the day to figure it out. We should be able to publish something that simple from Google Drive. |
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