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Post by Cubbies on Nov 20, 2020 14:26:39 GMT -5
I think we should turn the Wild Card Round into a Best of 3 series. Then the four rounds will be 3-5-7-7. Just not a fan of earning a WC spot that ends up being a 1 game spot.
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Post by Texas GM on Nov 20, 2020 16:03:40 GMT -5
I personally do not feel that the wildcard team is deserved of anything more than a one and out opportunity. In fact, I could see scenarios where, in a close race, a first place team pulls back on their team in order to gain a better match-up down the playoff line. In RL, MLB got it right with the WC by making teams chase the division right down to the wire, not rewarding them with a 3 game wildcard series, rather, making them fear the potential of being ousted in one game. This is coming from an old school fan that was even once opposed to the wild card to begin with and an NSBL owner that's been on both the giving and receiving end of tough WC games. Now, if MLB changes the format, I want to follow it because I like a league that's as realistic to mlb as can be.
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Post by Pirates GM on Nov 20, 2020 16:52:17 GMT -5
I think we should turn the Wild Card Round into a Best of 3 series. Then the four rounds will be 3-5-7-7. Just not a fan of earning a WC spot that ends up being a 1 game spot. I'm not opposed to this, but given the randomness of the sim, do you think a 3-game series really increases the chances of the better team making it through? JIm |
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Post by raysgm on Nov 20, 2020 17:57:10 GMT -5
I think we should turn the Wild Card Round into a Best of 3 series. Then the four rounds will be 3-5-7-7. Just not a fan of earning a WC spot that ends up being a 1 game spot. Don't have strong views either way, so I guess I'd be for it! That said....we couldn't have implemented this 8 years ago or anything  |
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Post by Pirates GM on Nov 20, 2020 20:49:19 GMT -5
Don't have strong views either way, so I guess I'd be for it! That said....we couldn't have implemented this 8 years ago or anything I dunno Connor...seems that your team struggles with the 7-game series dynamic too. Love, JIm PS Muhahaha. |
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Post by marlinsgmed on Nov 20, 2020 20:59:08 GMT -5
Joe and I were discussing this a bit after my loss. Not to sound like sour grapes but...after losing back-to-back, excruciating, one-run wild card games, I would like to see best of three.
Honestly, I would also say that if I had won. I won 96 and 92 games the last two years, so it is not like I lucked into the dance.
I see the point about following MLB but there are a number of things about the sim that are unrealistic.
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Post by raysgm on Nov 20, 2020 22:06:13 GMT -5
Don't have strong views either way, so I guess I'd be for it! That said....we couldn't have implemented this 8 years ago or anything I dunno Connor...seems that your team struggles with the 7-game series dynamic too. Love, JIm PS Muhahaha. 1 game series record: 1-3 7 game series record: 6-3 |
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Post by Cubbies on Nov 20, 2020 22:32:02 GMT -5
I dunno Connor...seems that your team struggles with the 7-game series dynamic too. Love, JIm PS Muhahaha. 1 game series record: 1-3 7 game series record: 6-3 So basically, if you can win the WC round, you're gonna go all the way and lose the World Series. |
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Post by raysgm on Nov 20, 2020 23:01:34 GMT -5
1 game series record: 1-3 7 game series record: 6-3 So basically, if you can win the WC round, you're gonna go all the way and lose the World Series. Yep, or if I win the division! Basically if you let me into the ALDS, then the world series is going to the NL |
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Post by Arizona on Nov 21, 2020 8:52:05 GMT -5
I'm 2-2 in wildcard games. I've been the road game in all four of those games.
When an underdog wins the wildcard game, they DEFINITELY do not want it to be best of 3.
But when a generally better team loses, they REALLY wish it was best of 3.
So I guess it depends on your perspective.
I actually really like this idea of the best of 3.
So if we go for it, which home/away pattern is best?
1) 2-11 (1 would be the team with the better record playing at home and a '-' would be a travel day)
2) 1-2-1
3) 11-2
I guess we aren't constrained by real life travel, so we could skip travel days for that short series.
I think 121 (with no travel days) would be best.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 10:21:21 GMT -5
i vote whatever MLB settles on for playoffs. where are all the realism people?!!
and if you want to try and cut down on the randomness, allow for net play in the playoffs if GMs wish.
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Post by marlinsgmed on Nov 21, 2020 10:47:53 GMT -5
We just had a team steal 240 plus bases when 131 was the most in MLB in 2019 and Joey Gallo had 70 HR. I am not sure realism is a plausible argument here.
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Post by Cubbies on Nov 21, 2020 11:30:11 GMT -5
We just had a team steal 240 plus bases when 131 was the most in MLB in 2019 and Joey Gallo had 70 HR. I am not sure realism is a plausible argument here. GALLO CAN REALLY DO THAT!!! |
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Post by raysgm on Nov 21, 2020 13:59:50 GMT -5
and if you want to try and cut down on the randomness, allow for net play in the playoffs if GMs wish. I would LOVE for net play to be the playoff norm (I'd first have to figure out how to do net play on my windows emulator, but that shouldn't be too hard) |
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Post by Arizona on Nov 21, 2020 14:51:15 GMT -5
and if you want to try and cut down on the randomness, allow for net play in the playoffs if GMs wish. I would LOVE for net play to be the playoff norm (I'd first have to figure out how to do net play on my windows emulator, but that shouldn't be too hard) What is net play? |
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Post by Cubbies on Nov 21, 2020 14:58:28 GMT -5
I would LOVE for net play to be the playoff norm (I'd first have to figure out how to do net play on my windows emulator, but that shouldn't be too hard) What is net play? I think it would be where two owners can actively run the sim together online. Make pitching changes, pinch hitting, etc. |
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Post by Arizona on Nov 21, 2020 15:00:29 GMT -5
I think it would be where two owners can actively run the sim together online. Make pitching changes, pinch hitting, etc. Oh that does sounds awesome! Assuming uninterrupted internet, and attentive owners, how long does a typical 9-inning game take to play? |
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Post by KC Royals Nate on Nov 21, 2020 15:43:08 GMT -5
20-30 min
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Post by bluejaysgm on Nov 21, 2020 18:34:31 GMT -5
I would vote no to 3 game WC (unless MLB does it).
Not for net play either. Very unlikely I would be around the same time my opponent is for long enough to play.
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Post by KC Royals Nate on Nov 21, 2020 19:19:50 GMT -5
I would vote no to 3 game WC (unless MLB does it). Not for net play either. Very unlikely I would be around the same time my opponent is for long enough to play. That can be the one thing that is tricky, aligning game times across time zones. I was able to recently knock out a 6 game series over Netplay in 2:15. If you are familiar with the DMB interface, it’s pretty fun even if you lose, since you make the decisions you’d want vs the CPU mgr. |
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Post by Arizona on Nov 21, 2020 19:26:29 GMT -5
I would vote no to 3 game WC (unless MLB does it). Not for net play either. Very unlikely I would be around the same time my opponent is for long enough to play. That can be the one thing that is tricky, aligning game times across time zones. I was able to recently knock out a 6 game series over Netplay in 2:15. If you are familiar with the DMB interface, it’s pretty fun even if you lose, since you make the decisions you’d want vs the CPU mgr. It could definitely be a challenge. It could be drawn out pretty far into the offseason if needed. - Like Wild card teams have 4 days to get their 3 game series completed. - Then LDS teams have 3 days to get the first 2 games played. Then 3 more days to get the next 2 games played. - It might take a week or more to play each series. And what if a GM-less team gets into the postseason? But it would a lot of fun if it could be done. |
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Post by raysgm on Nov 21, 2020 20:25:16 GMT -5
That can be the one thing that is tricky, aligning game times across time zones. I was able to recently knock out a 6 game series over Netplay in 2:15. If you are familiar with the DMB interface, it’s pretty fun even if you lose, since you make the decisions you’d want vs the CPU mgr. It could definitely be a challenge. It could be drawn out pretty far into the offseason if needed. - Like Wild card teams have 4 days to get their 3 game series completed. - Then LDS teams have 3 days to get the first 2 games played. Then 3 more days to get the next 2 games played. - It might take a week or more to play each series. And what if a GM-less team gets into the postseason? But it would a lot of fun if it could be done. I don't know if this is how net play works or not, but what if a time cannot be arranged then the home team can control their team against a CPU opponent? They can also just choose to have it simmed with no user play if they do not want to do so. Honestly, controlling the in-game decisions of my team in the playoffs seems like it would be really fun, especially against another opponent, but even against a CPU |
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Nov 22, 2020 12:49:32 GMT -5
Because of the way matchups work in baseball, there isn't a significant enough difference in best of one versus best of three to go to the extra effort. Having another kick at the can in the wildcard game is just a feel good thing. Having said that, I don't actually have a preference because I'm still years away from being competitive. LOL
I'm fine with going to net play for the playoffs as long as we are allowed to let the computer play for us. I don't think there should be a penalty if you choose not to manage your team. I've always viewed myself as a GM and not a coach/manager. I might hate the way the computer manages, but it might still do a better job than I can muster up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2020 13:08:53 GMT -5
yup, if you don't want to net play no problem make your MP get it sent to the other GM, or find a proxy GM to play as you.
CFA uses net play when possible all season long and many GMs there are very very busy and they find a way to do it. honestly, there is no reason why a fake world series needs to end at the same time as the real life one. so if it drags out, so what.
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Post by bluejaysgm on Nov 22, 2020 15:37:39 GMT -5
I think if you are going to allow net play in the playoffs it should only be if BOTH gms are willing to do it. If one isn’t then it should be simmed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 6:43:37 GMT -5
It's funny / interesting that most fantasy leagues that use DMB are NOT centralized leagues. Most require GMs to actively play either home or away games, some both over a series of days...
DMB does all sort of dumb decisions that can be dealt with by having a human make the decision, and yet...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 8:36:07 GMT -5
I am against the wild card going to a 3 game series. Dont want to be in a win or go home scenario? Win your division
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