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Post by Pirates GM on Dec 14, 2017 22:58:00 GMT -5
Once everyone who is going to see it has seen it in a week or two, I would like to get everyone's thoughts on it. Thanks,
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Post by LA Angels GM on Dec 14, 2017 23:19:21 GMT -5
I'll see it, but it'll probably be longer than a week or two. Crowded movie theaters are the worst.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 19:22:56 GMT -5
been twice so far. won't spoil nothing if I say... Empire used to be my favorite.
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Post by Pirates GM on Dec 16, 2017 9:06:43 GMT -5
You are on crack, Jason. Pure nose candy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 11:24:05 GMT -5
I think there is a great divide in the force... you poor souls that only ever started with watching the original trilogy on VHS, and they you're first cinematic Star Wars experience was jarjar and pod racing... y'all are confused. The Last Jedi is not a cinematic masterpiece like Navy Seals... but its great in context... I will add, Rogue One is my 3rd favorite. As I said to my cousin this morning... he's some points that help make this the best film in the series. 1 - No Hayden Christiansen. 2 - No f'ing Pod Racing 3 - moments where there are clear easter egg/misty eyed moments for older fans 4 - the disney marketing departments cash cow Plush toy gets spit roasted
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Post by Pirates GM on Dec 16, 2017 12:41:20 GMT -5
Jason, I want to hold off destroying you until others have seen it, but that was quite possibly the worst Star Wars ever made.
Worse than II.
Worse than I.
The. Worst.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 18:57:15 GMT -5
so much anger in you...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 21:23:01 GMT -5
I’m pretty easy where movies are concerned. I am maybe the only person in the country who didn’t hate Hayden’s Christiensen’s performance, but I have some issues with Episode VIII. I won’t play spoiler here, but I was pretty disappointed.
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Post by LA Angels GM on Dec 17, 2017 23:04:22 GMT -5
The first half, I agree with Jim. It got better as it went on, but it took a while.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Dec 18, 2017 0:57:00 GMT -5
The movie was fine. There was a lot of storyboard style filler. I thought the ending was good enough. I still think it's better than the prequels. It was a very fine space wizards movie. Also, I was disappointed that this film was not able to capitalize on Ep.VII momentum (until the end).
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Post by bigredmachine on Dec 18, 2017 8:58:34 GMT -5
As a huge Star Wars fan I was a little disappointed. I thought there wasnt enough depth to some of the scenes and it was just enough action/info to move the plot forward.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 9:53:30 GMT -5
I'm developing a theory much like the one I developed after Force Awakens. the opinions divide along age centric lines. Somewhere around the age that would indicate whether you went to see A New Hope in the theatre in '77... If the first time you saw it was on TV on VHS, or... the rerelease with Lucas' stupid CGI edits... then you are more likely to no care for the newest generation of releases very much.
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Post by LA Angels GM on Dec 18, 2017 10:35:44 GMT -5
I'm developing a theory much like the one I developed after Force Awakens. the opinions divide along age centric lines. Somewhere around the age that would indicate whether you went to see A New Hope in the theatre in '77... If the first time you saw it was on TV on VHS, or... the rerelease with Lucas' stupid CGI edits... then you are more likely to no care for the newest generation of releases very much. There may be something to that. I was born in '81, so the first time I watched the original trilogy was laying on my living room floor on the VCR. I was real young, but I still knew the endgame. I knew Vader was Luke's father, I knew Luke would win, and I knew roughly how it would happen. So as I watched those movies, I knew what was going to happen at the end. I actually like episodes 2 and 3 (didn't care for 1, but who does?). My theory there isn't that I saw it in theaters or not, but rather that I knew the end-game. I knew that Anakin would turn into Darth Vader at the end, so while watching, I could look for clues that signaled that change. By knowing the end-game and the overall purpose of the trilogy, I was more able to put up with the non-essential stuff and take those things for what they were. In this new trilogy... no one knows the end-game. I'm not going to go into any details for fear of spoiling, but no one knows anything about anything. I mean, we can assume that the resistance wins, but beyond that, it's anyone's guess. I have no "clues" to look for, because anything could be a clue. From a movie-fan standpoint, that should be a good thing, but maybe with Star Wars, it isn't for me because I've never watched a Star Wars without knowing what to look for. Another thing I didn't like about the first half of this one (I don't think this gives any spoilers away) is that it was too "Disney," or maybe it even took a page from Marvel. It was trying to be too jokesy and cute at times. To me, Star Wars isn't about witty one-liners, and I had a hard time looking past that. They mostly moved past that at around the half-way point (or maybe I just got used to it), and that seemed to help my interest. I will say, I am really excited for the next one in 2019. There really are a lot of different ways they could take this. Not as excited that I heard rumors they're already planning yet another trilogy, but we will deal with that when the time comes.
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Post by phillies17 on Dec 18, 2017 11:38:51 GMT -5
I believe those that never saw the originals in the theater just cannot fully grasp the depth and scope of the Star Wars universe. The first movie was groundbreaking on so many levels. Most of the special effects that people take for granted today, or find bland or cheesy now, did not even exist back then. These things were invented just so the movie could be made. Then the scope of a fictional world like this that had 2 additional movies that all came together successfully was really unprecedented in Hollywood back then. Now everything is a trilogy or longer. Even the Godfather had trouble making it to 3 movies with comparable quality. The Darth Vader character was arguably one of the greatest villains ever created by Hollywood up to that point and overall the all of the main characters became iconic. Watching them for the first time now or even as far back as the 90's on VHS or DVD makes them somewhat sterile and just removes so many levels of the Universe that fans enjoy about these movies.
I think episodes 1-3 naturally failed to live up to the expectations set by what is now episodes 4-6. They also fell into the typical prequel trap I see all the time in existing series. You know what happens afterward, so the drama and tension is nearly impossible to produce. I can see how new fans would appreciate them less then anyone that saw the original trilogy. Having seen 4-6 many times I really had no issues with 1-3 as movies and thoroughly enjoyed that time period of the Star War Universe. It has actually pushed me to read some of the books based on this time period. I had never read a Star Wars book to that point, and still don't read any from other points in the universe.
My biggest issue with episode VII was the blatant re-tread plot lines from episode 4. Not sure if its a strictly Disney thing, or just a reflection of (what Hollywood in general) thinks of the current generation of potential fans and moviegoers. I have not seen the newest movie yet, I will wait a while only because I cannot stand taking my kids to a packed theater.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 12:49:50 GMT -5
watched the first 6 releases on TNT almost constantly this week. and I formulated my list for the fb. The Last Jedi is at the top for me now, with Empire second and then Rogue One.
Im in a similar camp about your first cinema experience being the second trilogy and what that does to some viewers...
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Post by Pirates GM on Dec 18, 2017 21:19:58 GMT -5
I am about to destroy this thread. When it happens, some of you aren’t going to like how it feels.
In the meantime, my biggest overarching concern is that Star Wars has nothing new to say. Take the same few plot devices, scramble them up, spit out new movie.
Repeat $$$ repeat $$$ repeat.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 7:48:04 GMT -5
I am about to destroy this thread. When it happens, some of you aren’t going to like how it feels. Challenge accepted, I saw Phantom Menace in the theatre, took time out from work to go... was so anxious to revisit the saga that shaped my childhood... and Lucas kicked me in the teeth and ate my last twinkie... so I can handle anything...
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Post by phillies17 on Dec 19, 2017 9:37:41 GMT -5
I am about to destroy this thread. When it happens, some of you aren’t going to like how it feels. In the meantime, my biggest overarching concern is that Star Wars has nothing new to say. Take the same few plot devices, scramble them up, spit out new movie. Repeat $$$ repeat $$$ repeat. JIm No idea where you are going but I want to weigh in before you "destroy the place" LOL. There are two things to remember for quite a few of us Star Wars fans from the original days: We know episodes 7-9 are nothing but a money grab by Disney to get the youngest generation to "experience" Star Wars in real time and not just watch old movies. They need to be dumb'ed down and recycled since original thought and depth are not part of Hollywood movie making anymore. Once you have accepted that reality then you can balance the movies produced and baseline your enjoyment accordingly and not be disappointed since that is already accounted for. We also know episodes 1-3 were ok as movies but not as good as episodes 4-6 overall. We appreciated the attempt at giving us the background that led up to A New Hope and the original trilogy. The more you liked the Star Wars Universe, the more you probably appreciated the plot and scope and were less critical of them as movies in a vacuum. Ok proceed, but without spoilers please.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 16:38:43 GMT -5
That want the weirdest scene, and the weirdest scene can’t be explained away. It was a shitty over-reach that didn’t need to be.
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Post by Pirates GM on Dec 25, 2017 10:22:33 GMT -5
Merry Christmas, friends. I am now going to destroy Episode VIII. It is my destiny.
Top 40 thoughts by Rian Johnson while directing Episode VIII:
(NOTE: Loaded with spoilers and fury, so if you liked the movie, just skip all of this.)
1. What laws of physics? 2. I haven’t heard of the First Law of Motion. I doubt it contradicts the main plot of the movie in any way. 3. Carrie Fisher has to survive. She has staying power. 4. I know Fisher is out of shape and can’t really act anymore, but I’m going to have her outlive Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill anyway. 5. I don’t know why nobody thought of bombers in space before. Gravity shmavity. 6. I’m sure these porgs aren’t just a Disney cash grab. They are essential to my story. 7. Just when fans think Leia meets a timely and poetic end, I’m going to have her pull a Mary Poppins in interstellar space. 8. Why does the cast keep texting me Wikipedia articles on the vacuum of space? I’m sure it’s no different than being on Earth. 9. Is Bert the chimney sweep still alive? He’d really add to this Leia scene. 10. I’m going to bring back Episode I-quality CGI, and make it sexy again. 11. I direct best when I’m in a corner. I’m sure if we trap the Rebel fleet in the middle of interstellar space, I’ll come up with something great. 12. The Casino scene is the new pod race, and I mean that in a good way. 13. I don’t need Billy Dee Williams, because I can’t think of a way to incorporate a gambling socialite into this film. 14. The 2 Asian leads in Rogue One were awesome, so I’m going to add one to my movie. The audience won’t realize she’s a terrible actress, and is irrelevant to the plot. 15. It’s good I added her, so instead of pairing Poe with Finn again, Poe can spend the majority of the film staring pensively out of ship windows. 16. Finn was a hero in VII, so obviously I should turn him into a deserter. 17. Even though the whole point of VII was the First Order trying to find Luke Skywalker, I’m going to make them completely disinterested in doing so this time around. Unimportant. 18. I’m going to borrow the Mirror of Erasid from Harry Potter I, stick it in an underwater cave (which somehow stays dry) on the island, have multiple Reys do a snapping thing like they’re gearing up for a 1950’s street fight, and then not explain it at all. Good luck with that one, JJ. 19. Fans prefer heroes that are saved not through heroism, but dumb luck and circumstance. They’ll love what I’m going to do with Rose and Finn here 3 times in a row. 20. I don’t care if Captain Phasma is the new Boba Fett. This scene is screaming for Finn to be saved by a random hovering platform, before he kills her in a manner that doesn’t advance the plot whatsoever. 21. It’s entirely realistic for BB-8 to turn cold-blooded killer, steal an AT-ST, and wipe out an entire legion of First Order Troops. After all, I can’t have Finn or Rose bail themselves out. 22. I’m not going to provide any backstory on Snoke, even though fans want that badly. As far as I’m concerned, he’s just some cranky old guy with lightning bolt hands. 23. In fact, I don’t see the need for ANY backstory reveals. That will give me more time for Finn and Rose to ride CGI-lion things through casino windows. 24. I’m going to have Snoke borrow Voldemort’s mind manipulation-thing from Harry Potter 5. They don’t know Occlumency in this galaxy! 25. People are expecting someone huge to change sides. I’m going to have Kylo Ren do that, but only for like 30 seconds. Then I’m going to amp him up to ultra-d-bag mode. 26. I’m going to have Effie Trinket’s sister take over the Rebels, and simply refuse to tell anyone the escape plan. That will lead to a mutiny, simply because she’s a poor communicator. 27. Oh man. This escape plan is awful. Why did I give the First Order the ability to track the Rebels through lightspeed? I’ve got no outs here. 28. I can’t have the escape pod carrying Leia, Poe, and C3PO get blasted. All 3 are essential to the plot. 29. I’m literally going to have C3PO and R2D2 do nothing this entire movie. Fans will eat it up. 30. I’m going to act like this huge Jedi tree on the island is a major plot device, but then make fans feel stupid by having ghost Yoda set it ablaze and laugh. 31. Okay, so Effie Trinket’s sister is going to obliterate the ENTIRE First Order fleet by ramming her ship into the fleet at lightspeed. Even the Star Destroyers not hit will be incinerated by the force of impact... 32. ...Except for the ship it actually hits, which is carrying both of the main characters. That ship will just be cut in half, but the main characters are just fine. 33. I’m going to cover this new planet in red salt, but then make it completely unrelated to the plot in any way. 34. You’ll *think* that these rickety 30-year old speeders that the Rebels find in this salt base are churning up the red salt to create a smokescreen, but nope. 35. Despite the entire First Order fleet just getting destroyed by a lightspeed collision, they somehow still have a limitless supply of troops to launch an enormous AT-AT assault on the Rebel base. Because Star Wars. 36. These rickety speeders don’t even have weapons on them! How are they going to take on AT-ATs? Yeah, I totally better destroy these things. 37. Rose is the new Jar-Jar Binks, and again I mean that in a good way. 38. Fans are going to be so in love with Rose that just when they think she’s dead, I’m going to have Finn drag her body back to base over 1 mile across a salt flat, right in the middle of a First Order assault, all completely unharmed. 39. Fans don’t WANT to see Luke Skywalker actually using his lightsaber. It’s better if he just thinks about stuff. 40. I wonder why Kathleen Kennedy just emailed me, “Don’t worry- we own Rotten Tomatoes too.” That seems ominous.
Disney was so afraid of the politics of the prequels that they’ve left us with a stripped-down, paper-thin galaxy that had nothing new to say. There are good guys and bad guys. They don’t like each other, so they fight over and over again, using the same handful of recycled plot devices.
IMO, Disney should’ve given Gareth Edwards the keys to the franchise. Rogue One was phenomenal. That guy got it. Not only have Abrams and Johnson neutered what was not long ago the most creative and fertile foundation in cinema history, but they’ve pigeonholed all future movies due to their lack of creativity and direction. (Not to mention, the entire First Order fleet is destroyed, and there’s only about 12 Rebels left now.) And of that wasn’t enough, we’re stuck with these two chumps for Episodes 9-12 to boot.
The Last Jedi is not only the worst Star Wars movie, but it’s one of the worst movies ever made. And if you come into this thread and try to tell me otherwise, I will fight you to the death with my keyboard. To. The. Death.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 6:47:21 GMT -5
sorry buddy, I felt I should stop reading when you used a problem with the Laws of Physics as your first reason... you are far too grown up for me...
I will try to comment on the rest but reading through tears of laughter is hard...
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Post by Pirates GM on Dec 28, 2017 21:37:32 GMT -5
Those were not tears of laughter, and you damn well know it. Those were tears of reality.
Saw it for a second time tonight with my daughters. I was going to skip it and just let my wife and her brother take them, but I felt bad missing out on a Star Wars experience with my kids.
It was still as bad and over-the-top as it was the first time, but I think what hit me this time is there's SO many ways Johnson could've saved this trainwreck, and led to some suspense heading into IX, but he passed at every single one of them. For example...
1. Cutting off the last 1/2 hour of the movie, and ending it with the lightsaber suspended between Kylo Ren and Rey, and Finn and Rose (still an awful actress) caught in front of the First Order. Adds suspense, and gives JJ Abrams (also horrible) a few years to figure a way out of the corner Johnson painted him into.
2. Have Kylo Ren stay with the Resistance. The Ren/Rey lightsaber battle is by far the most badass part of that movie, and it's 100% kickass for the few minutes that they're teamed up. Then with both of them together, you could be like, "Okay, there are only 12 Rebels left, but they have the 2 Jedi on their side, so there's a chance."
I was sitting in the 3rd row tonight, and saw 3 people (all apparently first-timers) walk out in disgust. One guy loudly threw his popcorn bucket down on the floor as he walked out. I could feel his anger.
JIm
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Dec 29, 2017 3:12:05 GMT -5
I've read your rant a couple of times now here and on FB. I think your reaction is excessive. There are obvious flaws and questionable choices throughout the film, but a skilled cinephile or fanboy can easily destroy an average movie. I think Ep. 8 is just that, an average movie.
Having just reflected on the anniversary of Carrie's passing, I feel that they missed an opportunity to change the tone of the film. They had a lot of time to do reshoots and rewrites. There were multiple good opportunities to allow Leia to exit the franchise, and I think the executives and the director just missed. Just dropped the ball.
I really like Rian Johnson. I think Brick is an insanely brilliant and still underrated film. I think Looper is a wonderfully developed idea even if the execution wasn't perfect. Ep. 8 should have been rewritten to be a darker movie. It would have been right in Rian's wheelhouse. It might have even saved us from the internet explosion over vacuums!
I also want to touch on the character of Rose. You could have had Meryl Streep play that role and the material would have still fallen flat. The actress isn't the problem; it's the way the character was written. John Boyega didn't have a ton of big screen experience before being cast as Finn, and even with the obviously terrible handling of his character we're not killing him for his performance. Kelly Marie Tran got thrown under the bus by Johnson. I literally think she did everything she could with the material she was given.
I work at a nerd store. I've heard a lot of opinions on this movie from fans, fanboys, and overly critical trolls. I've said the words "good opening, good ending, bunch of undeveloped storyboard material in the middle" dozens of times now. Defenders get offended, detracters kinda nod, and trolls just wanna be trolls. Jim, it feels like you crossed over from diappointed fanboy to jilted troll. Saying that Ep. 8 is worse that Ep. 2 is just madness taking over your brain. I can tell you're grief stricken, but pull yourself together, man!
This movie was a failure because it didn't meet the baseline expectations of the passionate fanbase. I believe that Jim is correct that they gave this particular installment to the wrong writer/director. I am also skeptical about whether Abrams can pull anything out of this underdeveloped mess. My hope is that the studio will find their way into more great Star Wars stories like Rogue One. That Rian Johnson can redeem himself working with characters and stories of his own creation. That Abrams steps aside after Ep. 9 to make more enjoyable watered down Star Trek movies.
We survived the prequels. We'll survive Ep. 8.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 7:20:36 GMT -5
Thats the best review I've read, "crossed over from disappointed fanboy to jilted troll." Lucas teased the world when he said that the Star Wars Story arch was 9 films... we got 3 before the internet... and we lived and loved those 3 even with all their faults. Technology improved and the story weaver was able to re-edit... not very well for many of us. He messed with our pasts. Why was there such a break..? Writing Willow?? or Last Crusade? Lots of Producer Credits, not many writer / director... Then 15 years later we get I-III ... 15 years older, were we remembering the first 3 as cinematic masterpieces?? technical achievement, fine ok, but... What are we remembering about Empire, Jedi, Hope? oh, and then we had the internet. Then an easier to access internet. trolling isn't confined to dark web message boards... its right there in social media. What I think is profound about the arguments over these last 3 films, is that the divide is over completely different aspects. ie there are Rose haters hate, but no one is saying they loved the film because the character Rose. Those who loved it, love it for completely different reasons than the people that hated it. I fear if we were to hold the originals to the same standard, we'd find most didn't really like any of them... so stop going... Id like it to be easier to get last minute tickets.
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Post by Pirates GM on Dec 29, 2017 8:46:09 GMT -5
1. I agree that they should've re-written it once Fisher passed. I think they had about 9 months to do so, and the majority of the scenes containing her were small shots that did not require excessive costs to re-shoot. Frankly, I think all of them were.
Even if they *didn't* change any of the Leia scenes, they could've easily changed Luke's final scene on the meditation rock. They could've had him clinging to life, staring at the 2 suns in the distance, and just left it hanging. It would've required a single re-shot, or rather just not using CG to make him disappear. At least that gives you one original character to bridge to IX.
2. This is not me trolling, Sean. Episode VII was a disappointment; this was a cinema disaster. One of the reasons I was excited Lucas was selling the franchise was because I *thought* you would then have "Star Wars by committee", i.e. a whole bunch of people contributing to ensure that there were no whack-ass ideas from one misguided individual. But with Disney's practice of allowing a single guy to both write and direct these movies, we're still running into the same problem we did with Lucas: one single guy whose vision might be great (Edwards, Rogue I), mediocre (Abrams, VII), or just plan awful (Johnson, VIII).
3. I think one of the reasons VIII fails so badly is that Johnson takes what little Abrams accomplished in VII, and undermines it. Think about it. As the dust cleared at the overly-long ending of VIII, what really happened?
A. Blowing up Starkiller Base apparently meant nothing. The First Order somehow still had a huge troop advantage, and was assaulting the Rebels from the start.
B. Finn was a very good character, and Poe was at least decent in VII. Edwards made both of them flat, unremarkable, and no longer essential to the plot.
C. Kylo Ren could've changed sides and it would've been epic, but he didn't.
D. Rey could've changed sides and it would've been epic, but she didn't.
E. Both groups are still just fighting each other in space, but now there's only like 12 Rebels left, so having them with a full-scale army at the beginning of IX will be a huge leap. The First Order seemingly had their entire fleet destroyed by the light speed collision, but still seemingly have an inexhaustable supply of troops and ships.
This movie was just one long, 2 1/2 hour stalemate as I feared it would be during the previews. That's not trolling, that's reality. And I think as the movie ages and people drop their initial instinct to defend it because it's a Star Wars movie, you're going to see it sink into Episode I and II territory.
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Post by Pirates GM on Dec 29, 2017 8:54:59 GMT -5
sorry buddy, I felt I should stop reading when you used a problem with the Laws of Physics as your first reason... you are far too grown up for me... I will try to comment on the rest but reading through tears of laughter is hard... PS Even though I teach science, I'm far from a high-end physics dweeb that's going to point out ultra-obscure stuff. For example, the bombs falling in space is technically incorrect, but I think the scene still works overall, and despite that inaccuracy, I think it's one of the better parts of the movie. The problem here is Johnson chose a direct contradiction to one of the most core tenets of physics as the MAIN plot point of his movie. First Law of Motion: Inertia. Objects in motion or at rest stay that way, unless acted upon by an outside force.It wouldn't matter one damn bit if the Rebel fleet was running out of fuel. If they were capable of moving faster than the Star Destroyers as Hux said, they wouldn't suddenly drift backwards when they ran out of fuel, because in the vacuum of space, nothing would slow them down like on Earth. (And if they were moving faster, they would actually continue to widen the gap from the First Order as the movie progressed. How they actually showed it meant both they and the Star Destroyers were moving at the same speed.) Frankly, you could even make an argument that the constant barrage from the First Order would serve to speed the fleet UP, and move them farther away from the Star Destroyers, although that is a little more obscure. Sometimes, using physics correctly makes for a badass scene. One of the more epic scenes in VIII is when the Rebel frigate slams into the First Order fleet at light speed, and it's done totally silently, as it really would be in space. That scene was awesome, so saying that directors shouldn't attempt to follow science because only nerds would notice it is somewhat of a defeatist attitude. JIm
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Post by LA Angels GM on Dec 29, 2017 9:00:00 GMT -5
I try not to read too much about these movies going in, so I never heard the reasoning for having different writers for each movie. What was the point of that? Different directors, fine. But writers? So you're telling me that Abrams is now writing IX completely from scratch? Like, he had zero idea where VIII was going when he handed the reigns over to Johnson? That's just dumb if true.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 9:15:50 GMT -5
I wish you got to see the Holiday Special on TV, like a 19" TV with dials to change the channel and rabbit ears with foil on them...
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Post by rockiesgm on Dec 29, 2017 11:04:31 GMT -5
I have not read this thread but thought I'd add my two cents. While I was entertained, I just don't get what the hell Disney is doing with this franchise. Why can't they come up with an original story line for crying out loud? I mean we get it, the Empire/New Order can make big guns. Also, stop with the force-fed attempts at Lucas-like humor. I thought Disney would be able to discern what the fans disliked about his prequels but apparently they have no idea.
I will say, thank goodness Carrie Fisher is dead and I'm glad Luke has crossed over to the other side in the film. Now they can stop force-feeding their awful acting on us. Speaking of characters dying, I cannot wait until Poe Dameron gets smoked. I can't stand that guy...the actor or the character.
How come every Sith Lord goes out like a total punk? I mean how does the all powerful Supreme Leader go out like that? Pathetic. I mean I was really really looking forward to some interesting insight into who Snoke was...but no.. he too gets cut in half by some jobber Jedi move.
How did the titty milk scene make the film? On that scene alone, I hope Rian Johnson never works again. I also hope he somehow loses all of his money and has to hustle handjobs at the bus station just to buy a cheeseburger.
At this point, I'll look forward to the offshoot movies but I have little interest in this "rinse repeat" crap. The Marvel movies are light years better all the way around. Heck, at this point I will look forward to the new Star Trek movies much more than the Star Wars cash grab.
But like I said, I was entertained.
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