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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 21:40:19 GMT -5
Effective immediately there will be a change in international free agent eligibility for the NSBL drafts.
The new rule makes any signed player eligible to be drafted starting with the winter draft the season after their eligible singing period. For example, any player eligible to sign in the period starting July 2, 2019 is eligible to be drafted this season, provided they signed in that period. Players signing during the period starting July 2, 2020 will be eligible starting with the winter draft following the 2021 season.
International Free Agents who sign major league contracts are eligible for free agency immediately, provided they are signed by the start of Tier 2 free agency. If they have not signed by the start of Tier 2 they will be moved to the free agency pool for the following season.
Congratulations Cleveland Dan. Your miserable season was not in vain after all.
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 7, 2021 9:42:14 GMT -5
Do we have a Winter Draft order yet? I know we moved to using the past 3 years instead of 1 to do draft order to prevent one-year tanks. Wasn't sure if anyone had put in the work yet.
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 7, 2021 10:17:34 GMT -5
3 year win totals:
Baltimore 301
Tampa 296
Chicago (A) 296 Did worse than TBR in 2020
Colorado 291
San Diego 289
Texas 271
Oakland 271 Did worse than TEX in 2020
Arizona 266
Miami 265
Pittsburgh 261
Kansas City 254
Los Angeles (A) 253
New York (N) 250
Los Angeles (N) 245
Atlanta 244
Detroit 244 Same record as ATL in 2019. Did worse in 2018
Chicago (N) 236
St. Louis 236 Did worse than CHC in 2020
Seattle 231
Philadelphia 230
Cleveland 222
Milwaukee 220
New York (A) 217
Cincinnati 216
San Francisco 212
Boston 210
Toronto 200
Washington 195
Houston 192
Minnesota 180
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 7, 2021 11:00:27 GMT -5
am I correct in thinking then. where the 2020 International Signing Period got screwed up. the eligibility of International Free Agents to be drafted in NSBL 2021 winter draft are players who signed prior to July 1st, 2020??? I think that is how I read the change. All the 2019 J2 guys and any of them that signed before whatever the cut off for 2020 was, would be eligible (so yes, you get Dominguez). |
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Post by LA Angels GM on Jan 7, 2021 12:01:49 GMT -5
3 year win totals: Baltimore 301 Tampa 296 Chicago (A) 296 Did worse than TBR in 2020 Colorado 291 San Diego 289 Texas 271 Oakland 271 Did worse than TEX in 2020 Arizona 266 Miami 265 Pittsburgh 261 Kansas City 254 Los Angeles (A) 253 New York (N) 250 Los Angeles (N) 245 Atlanta 244 Detroit 244 Same record as ATL in 2019. Did worse in 2018 Chicago (N) 236 St. Louis 236 Did worse than CHC in 2020 Seattle 231 Philadelphia 230 Cleveland 222 Milwaukee 220 New York (A) 217 Cincinnati 216 San Francisco 212 Boston 210 Toronto 200 Washington 195 Houston 192 Minnesota 180 I can't believe that I'm in the top half. I'm officially out of the basement, and now firmly entrenched in the many .500 teams! Hooray! |
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Post by bluejaysgm on Jan 7, 2021 13:13:30 GMT -5
Do we have a Winter Draft order yet? I know we moved to using the past 3 years instead of 1 to do draft order to prevent one-year tanks. Wasn't sure if anyone had put in the work yet. Man, I can't keep up with the rules changes. I didn't remember we switched to a 3 year vs 1 year. |
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Post by Cubbies on Jan 7, 2021 14:09:47 GMT -5
Do we have a Winter Draft order yet? I know we moved to using the past 3 years instead of 1 to do draft order to prevent one-year tanks. Wasn't sure if anyone had put in the work yet. Man, I can't keep up with the rules changes. I didn't remember we switched to a 3 year vs 1 year. We did last offseason to help prevent the 1 year tanks and give the higher picks to teams that are perennially sucking. This is the first year of it though. |
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Post by Pirates GM on Jan 8, 2021 23:36:28 GMT -5
Do we have a Winter Draft order yet? I know we moved to using the past 3 years instead of 1 to do draft order to prevent one-year tanks. Wasn't sure if anyone had put in the work yet. Still holding out a glimmer of hope that the Winter Draft is expanded to 2 rounds. I can't foresee a reason anyone would be opposed to it. And after spending some time in another league with significantly more rounds than we have, I can see numerous long-term benefits from doing so. This would be a really good start. JIm |
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Post by sanfran on Jan 9, 2021 9:33:33 GMT -5
There is interest in expanding the draft again. This offseason is bad timing, for obvious reasons. If anyone has a strong opinion on expansion - or against, it would be good to post that opinion.
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Post by marlinsgmed on Jan 9, 2021 9:50:30 GMT -5
I’m all for expanding. Are we going to expand the roster size as well?
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Post by Pirates GM on Jan 9, 2021 17:20:50 GMT -5
There is interest in expanding the draft again. This offseason is bad timing, for obvious reasons. If anyone has a strong opinion on expansion - or against, it would be good to post that opinion. I would really like to see a small expansion by adding 1 round to this year's Winter Draft. 1. The Winter Draft is already a highlight of the offseason, and gets GMs re-engaged. With only one round, there's a lot of great players still out there on the board. 2. The Winter Draft was a really unique decision by the Committee years ago to compensate for the "Tier 1" free agent controversy. It not only sets our league apart from others, but has different strategy than the Summer Draft, as we now benefit from a full season to evaluate. Adding 1 more round would make it that much more awesome. 3. I think we've actually fallen behind other Diamond Mind leagues for draft rounds. MLBSA has 10, and while I was initially opposed and thought that many were ridiculous, I now greatly see the benefits of it. Most importantly, it gives GMs so much more prospect capital that trading with GMs is incredibly easy over there. GMs are much more comfortable moving 40-50 FV prospects, since they can acquire so many new ones each year. Even with me not being one of the more active GMs over there, I think I've already made 6 trades this offseason, many of which would never have happened here, because the majority of our league grows more and more reluctant to part with prospects. On the flip side, I have more loyalty and love for NSBL, since I'm one of the few remaining original GMs. But I've all but stopped trying to trade here, because it's too much of a grind. Everyone here LOVES the draft, and I think adding 1 round to Winter will not be a radical change, and will increase excitement, fun, and prospect liquidity greatly. Thanks for asking, Travis, JIm |
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Post by Texas GM on Jan 9, 2021 17:35:19 GMT -5
I'm fine with expanding the WD by 1 pick, but not for expanding roster sizes. If, and until, we ever solve the hoarding issues, expanding rosters further reduces the talent pool by 30 players, or a little less than 3% of the ML roster depth. I would rather at least see owners making harder decisions and maybe 15-20 players reentering the available talent pool.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jan 9, 2021 18:52:58 GMT -5
Everyone knows where I stand. 2 Winter rounds and 5 Summer rounds should provide enough picks to make most rosters push against their roster limit enough to create decision points. There are a lot of interesting things that only a few GMs get to do that many more could be doing with more picks. By giving Winter picks a "no trade" clause, it means we can allow all 5 rounds of the Summer draft to be tradable.
I hope everyone posts positive thoughts about draft expansion. The extra time spent researching and drafting these players would be a great thing to add to the league. Especially when a number of us are already researching for leagues with larger drafts.
Also, the committee member in charge of the draft should keep a running tally of players drafted from a particular season. So going into next year assuming that we will have a regular amateur season and full MLB draft, we will need to put together the 2021 draft results and cross off all the names already drafted. This allows the committee to draft for unowned teams and will let GMs also go with "best player avilable" if they don't have time to research. Doubly important to keep this list moving into the Winter rounds so that GMs and unowned teams can continue to use the list.
And though I am loathe to agree with Jim, he is right that our particular draft format makes us unique.
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Post by bigredmachine on Jan 9, 2021 20:23:07 GMT -5
There is interest in expanding the draft again. This offseason is bad timing, for obvious reasons. If anyone has a strong opinion on expansion - or against, it would be good to post that opinion. I would really like to see a small expansion by adding 1 round to this year's Winter Draft. 1. The Winter Draft is already a highlight of the offseason, and gets GMs re-engaged. With only one round, there's a lot of great players still out there on the board. 2. The Winter Draft was a really unique decision by the Committee years ago to compensate for the "Tier 1" free agent controversy. It not only sets our league apart from others, but has different strategy than the Summer Draft, as we now benefit from a full season to evaluate. Adding 1 more round would make it that much more awesome. 3. I think we've actually fallen behind other Diamond Mind leagues for draft rounds. MLBSA has 10, and while I was initially opposed and thought that many were ridiculous, I now greatly see the benefits of it. Most importantly, it gives GMs so much more prospect capital that trading with GMs is incredibly easy over there. GMs are much more comfortable moving 40-50 FV prospects, since they can acquire so many new ones each year. Even with me not being one of the more active GMs over there, I think I've already made 6 trades this offseason, many of which would never have happened here, because the majority of our league grows more and more reluctant to part with prospects. On the flip side, I have more loyalty and love for NSBL, since I'm one of the few remaining original GMs. But I've all but stopped trying to trade here, because it's too much of a grind. Everyone here LOVES the draft, and I think adding 1 round to Winter will not be a radical change, and will increase excitement, fun, and prospect liquidity greatly. Thanks for asking, Travis, JIm This is weird but I 100% agree with JIm and can’t find anything irrational about any of his statements/suggestions. |
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Post by seattlegm on Jan 11, 2021 16:08:07 GMT -5
There is interest in expanding the draft again. This offseason is bad timing, for obvious reasons. If anyone has a strong opinion on expansion - or against, it would be good to post that opinion. I would really like to see a small expansion by adding 1 round to this year's Winter Draft. 1. The Winter Draft is already a highlight of the offseason, and gets GMs re-engaged. With only one round, there's a lot of great players still out there on the board. 2. The Winter Draft was a really unique decision by the Committee years ago to compensate for the "Tier 1" free agent controversy. It not only sets our league apart from others, but has different strategy than the Summer Draft, as we now benefit from a full season to evaluate. Adding 1 more round would make it that much more awesome. 3. I think we've actually fallen behind other Diamond Mind leagues for draft rounds. MLBSA has 10, and while I was initially opposed and thought that many were ridiculous, I now greatly see the benefits of it. Most importantly, it gives GMs so much more prospect capital that trading with GMs is incredibly easy over there. GMs are much more comfortable moving 40-50 FV prospects, since they can acquire so many new ones each year. Even with me not being one of the more active GMs over there, I think I've already made 6 trades this offseason, many of which would never have happened here, because the majority of our league grows more and more reluctant to part with prospects. On the flip side, I have more loyalty and love for NSBL, since I'm one of the few remaining original GMs. But I've all but stopped trying to trade here, because it's too much of a grind. Everyone here LOVES the draft, and I think adding 1 round to Winter will not be a radical change, and will increase excitement, fun, and prospect liquidity greatly. Thanks for asking, Travis, JIm I can't agree more with JIm on this. Expanding the drafts may help with the ability to use more prospects as currency. |
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Post by raysgm on Jan 11, 2021 22:47:28 GMT -5
I also +1 Jim's suggestions.
Also I know I haven't been super active this offseason, but if the committee/anybody wants to use any of my tools/research for anything, I'm happy to help/provide data/share any findings/do any possible research on the data I have. Originally had been thinking about this in the context of "market value" for arbitration/contract extensions, but figured there may be other use cases I'm not thinking of
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Post by KC Royals Nate on Jan 13, 2021 11:58:26 GMT -5
I’m with Sean’s 2 Winter + 5 Summer draft idea
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Post by bluejaysgm on Jan 14, 2021 19:58:59 GMT -5
I’m with Sean’s 2 Winter + 5 Summer draft idea Me too! |
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