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Post by Arizona on Mar 7, 2021 19:29:18 GMT -5
It would be nice to have the numbers released before T1 begins. I don't know how much Conforto CE is going to be...and that is going to eat into my cap. It would be nice to know exactly where I am at with his CE# before I start bidding on T1 free agents. I think it's a pretty reasonable thing to do and would be pretty lame if a few days in T1 go by without getting the CE #s released. I'm sure I am not the only GM in my situation. I agree with this 100%
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Post by Texas GM on Mar 7, 2021 20:15:54 GMT -5
Real Life Average Salary: $26,928,571 Yelich,,, waiting for prospects to have good ratings - delaying even their entry level deal until they are good, prolonged CE control at "reasonable" rates, and then you wonder why Free Agent contracts are so high?? kill contract extensions, but give the home town team an opportunity to match what the player gets in free agency, minus a HTD. still again. im an idiot, I'm sure... there too much money in the system. I called Yelich up immediately after his rookie season though if you’re implying I held him back.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Mar 7, 2021 23:49:18 GMT -5
T1 has been postponed. Schedule will be updated soon.
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Post by Arizona on Mar 8, 2021 8:31:10 GMT -5
T1 has been postponed. Schedule will be updated soon. New schedule March 12: Tier 1 begins. 1st five players. Also March 12: CE numbers released. March 17: Next five players of Tier 1. March 22: Rest of free agency begins.
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Post by Texas GM on Mar 8, 2021 23:15:51 GMT -5
I called Yelich up immediately after his rookie season though if you’re implying I held him back. nope, im implying, that if his real life use, and his sim use is similar.. then his salary should be similar. and its not. In 2020 real life, Yelich made 12.5M and I was paying him 16.993 as a 6th year, front end extension. In real life in 2021, Yelich is making 14M base salary and I am paying him 16.993M. When you are comping contracts, you are referencing the full forward extension and his future earnings. I’m still paying him 3M more than he’s making in 2021 and nearly 8M more than he made in his equivalent real life years,. Yelich will go to FA next year here and likely get that 26M annual deal. My point in making that original comp post is the CE numbers are indeed inflated by the inflated contracts given to FA in the league. When the highest paid OF is making 55M a year, every OF getting a CE number is going to be inflated. when a catcher is making nearly 30M and another is making 22M, every catcher getting a CE is going to get an inflated number. When we overpay free agents, we are raising the average of every top tier of each position and that high tide is raising all ships. But, that said, I’m still paying Yelich more money in the first year of his extension than the Brewers are in real life.
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Post by Texas GM on Mar 9, 2021 8:36:59 GMT -5
if there were 5 Yelich in free agency... would they all make $26M??? if the free agent market actually had players in it, I wouldn't need to spend $30M on Bryce Harper, in the end there were 2 teams in Harper. up bidding for a couple days, if there was a second option, maybe one of us goes that way. and the bidding stops. if Free Agency spending is driving up contract extensions. then.. you have achieved simulation of real life! when free agent contracts go up... players are more interested in going to free agency. Lets give them that chance. I think this mentality of wanting to keep players forever and ever, until they suck. is just dumb. We think its marvelous when a guy comes up and stays with the same team his entire career, we think this, because its extremely rare now. but, we don't want to simulate THAT. We want to bring a guy up, late, and keep him at least 8 years. man, real life owners actually have a financial reason, they want to make money. with the exception of a few, people don't even want to win anymore. well except to win a high pick. but lets go back to Yelich a second. 9 years @ $215M was the deal. 7 additional years on top of what he had. as we don't; have a mechanism for variable contracts, we have to use static year over year salary. so.. if you want a CE on Yelich to be comparable, using the limitations... you need to at least base is on the 23.888 if this were the NHL, that AAV cap number is 23.888 not $14 for 2 years, then more. not 14M then 26, 26 you keep paying based on the exact year 14. you pay on AAV. but the real take away is that Yelich signed a 9 year deal to stay with the Brewers, so even though, thats not the team that called him up the majors, you should keep him forever, cheaply. I'm not even sure what point you're arguing now. I'm not looking to extend CE beyond the one year, nor am I looking to resign him when his contract is up. I was against the change from 2 originally, but like how it has moved talent around the league. I called him up when he got called up in real life. I'm also saying that I paid Yelich more in his 7 years in Texas than he made in his first 7 years in real life. I believe the reason why is because of the ridiculous FA contracts that are given out here. YELICH REAL LIFE (1st 7 years) Est. Earnings (7 seasons) $26,954,630 $1,700,000 - $28,654,630 I paid him more than 20M more for his 7 years in Texas. Why? Still, I didn't bitch about the cost of his CE. I'm simply saying that in a league that mirrors real life MLB total payroll, people are driving up CE costs because of stupid FA bids. And just for the record, I have never signed a FA for more than 17M and I’ve still managed to average 90 wins over ten seasons here, so that’s evidence that you don’t need to overpay on FA to win here.
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Post by Pirates GM on Mar 9, 2021 11:38:14 GMT -5
I'm with Mark. I don't entirely understand what you are arguing at this point.
And to say that CEs should be even higher? That's only sometimes true at positions like C and RP. Go submit a CE request on an SP or OF, and tell me they still need to be higher.
Honestly, the current CE system is so far off of where it needs to be that I would even be more in favor of having all players hit FA after 6th, but their previous team always gets a chance to match any offer for them in FA. That would frankly be a lot better than what we have at this point. Simpler too.
JIm
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Post by Arizona on Mar 12, 2021 11:48:44 GMT -5
I posted the free agency threads for the first set of players. Bidding opens tonight at 10:00pm
CE numbers will be posted around the same time as well.
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Post by Arizona on Mar 15, 2021 10:09:38 GMT -5
Looks like the first set of Tier 1 free agents will be winding down in the next couple days, so I added the next set of 5 players. Bidding will open at 10:00pm EST on March 17, 2021
Tier 2 (a.k.a. The Day 1/Day 2 Bloodbath) will begin on March 22, 2021
I also added a deadline for CE decisions on that post as well.
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