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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 14:23:42 GMT -5
With the dramatic change in the MLB Draft due to COVID-19 and to make sure everyone has plenty of time to adjust to changes, I wanted to get a real sense of peoples feelings on some possible changes that could be made. currently July 2, 2019 players won't be eligible to be drafted until Summer 2021 draft (right?), provided a regular start time occurs for minor leagues in 2021. For some that don't like to draft from the young pool this is a big deal, but for those willing to risk / reward.
there are other things that will have an effect on the next 2 drafts... maybe its time for serious reform of the process.
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Post by bluejaysgm on Jun 7, 2020 15:40:14 GMT -5
Under current rules if there is no minor league baseball this year and they have not already appeared stateside they won’t be eligible until winter 2021.
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Post by raysgm on Jun 7, 2020 16:56:20 GMT -5
I don't really care what the rule is as long as everybody is on the same page
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 19:07:12 GMT -5
for reference, this set up is pretty good. DRAFT ELIGIBILITY Those eligible for the draft shall be limited to: All amateurs eligible for the MLB draft of that season. If a player takes specific action to withdraw from the MLB draft, he will be ineligible for the BNSL draft. Any professional minor league player under contract with a MLB franchise (who is not currently on a BNSL team's roster) who has less than 130 MLB AB for a batter or 50 MLB IP for pitchers. These limits are cut-off once the new season begins so no IP or AB from the current season counts towards ineligibility. International players Any IFA who signs before the FA Nomination Deadline and is not expected to spend most or all of the upcoming season in the majors will be eligible to be drafted in the following season's Rule 4 draft if he does not exceed MLB rookie eligibility in the interim. Under no circumstance will the drafting of foreign players be allowed on the assumption or hope said player will move to MLB in a future season. International players must have less than 130 MLB AB for a batter or 50 MLB IP for pitchers to be eligible for the current draft. These limits are cut-off once the new season begins so no IP or AB from the current season counts towards ineligibility. Players who are considered to be ready for the Major Leagues and expected to spend the season in the Major Leagues by the EC will be eligible for Free Agency rather than the draft. This rule is intended to distinguish established foreign professional players from prospects. Any IFA who signs after our FA Nomination Deadline will be considered part of the following season's IFA class, meaning he is ineligible for the Rule 4 draft for the current draft. Ex: If our FA Nomination Deadline is 2/14/2016 and the player signs on 2/13/2016, then that player would be eligible for the 2016 draft, provided he does not expected to spend most or all of the season in the majors. Players eligible for FA or under contract with any BNSL team are not eligible for the draft of unaffiliated players. A list of all ineligible players will be provided prior to the start of the draft. In the event that a player is left off the ineligible list, the EC will immediately request that the team make another selection and add said player to the ineligible list.
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Post by Cubbies on Jun 7, 2020 21:30:17 GMT -5
The Committee is already aware of the IFA/Winter Draft issue. I know because I brought this up to them about a week ago. I'm sure they're discussing options because they know that with no minor league season this year, and the upcoming contraction of minor league teams, that changes will have to be made. Players might be spending the equivalent of their first two minor league seasons just playing complex ball in Arizona or Florida.
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Post by sanfran on Jun 8, 2020 18:30:17 GMT -5
yeah, as Joe said, these are the key concerns. We were waiting for SOME guidance from MLB (HA!). Once the season restarts and there is definitive statement on minor league season, or complex prospects league, that'll be the time to make an informed decision.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 6:37:40 GMT -5
id argue reform was needed even prior to COVID-19 shutting things down.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 10:16:43 GMT -5
come to think of it... anyone in favor of the Winter Draft switching to an order something around best team to miss the playoffs gets first pick? and down to worst team... and then the play off teams fall in line.?
or more of a lottery. my team sucks and even I think getting the best amateur and the "best IFA" is just weird...
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Post by raysgm on Jun 9, 2020 13:50:49 GMT -5
come to think of it... anyone in favor of the Winter Draft switching to an order something around best team to miss the playoffs gets first pick? and down to worst team... and then the play off teams fall in line.? or more of a lottery. my team sucks and even I think getting the best amateur and the "best IFA" is just weird... I would love to use the winter draft to implement my draft-another-team order.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 14:51:06 GMT -5
Can I draft for your team? I have a whole list to pick from.
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Post by raysgm on Jun 9, 2020 21:41:04 GMT -5
Can I draft for your team? I have a whole list to pick from. My "draft-another-team" idea was right before the season started, we have a draft of other teams. So for this year, the Cubs would have had the first pick. Instead of picking players, they would draft another team in the league, and their spot in next year's Winter Draft would be determined by that teams final position in the standings. So maybe Joe would pick the Nationals or Indians or something and then would spend the 2020 season rooting for those teams to lose as many games as possible. The one rule would be that you can't draft yourself (unless you're the last pick and no other team is remaining).
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Post by Cubbies on Jun 9, 2020 23:00:09 GMT -5
come to think of it... anyone in favor of the Winter Draft switching to an order something around best team to miss the playoffs gets first pick? and down to worst team... and then the play off teams fall in line.? or more of a lottery. my team sucks and even I think getting the best amateur and the "best IFA" is just weird... I believe the order of the Winter picks will be changing next year when we will start to use 3-year win totals to determine order, so one team can't tank and get the 1.01 twice.
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Post by BrewCrewGuru on Jun 10, 2020 17:23:49 GMT -5
I personally think the "Draft Another Team" idea is a little too cute. I'm more in favor of a lottery, but the rolling 3-year record should do enough to prevent us having as frequent back-to-back 1.01s.
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